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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Just curious, why the reaction towards this and the ones from Russia/China are different ?

Trust. Russia and China lie through their teeth on everything and anything. It's irrelevant whether or not they are lying in this particular instance: they cannot be trusted.

As if "the West" and the US in particular don't lie left and right if it helps to promote their agenda. It's a simple matter of who aligns with whom.

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Fascinating logistics problem here - distributing a vaccine that needs to be stored at -80C. This is significantly colder than the standard cold logistics chain. I believe Pfizer are working on a special transport box that can, unpowered, stay at the right temperature for a week as long as the box is only opened for something like 1 minute a day. That's a good thing, but with a capacity of I believe 10k vaccine doses…

Would also expect there to be some kind of "drive in" vaccination points, like there are in some communities for tests.

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Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

I don't understand, aren't future events supposed to be already considered in the stock price? It's not like a vaccine was unpredictable

Kind of, but two things: (1) the markets are irrational. And (2) real events (eg 100% certainty that we have a vaccine passing phase 3 right now) are different than 90% chance that we’ll have a vaccine in the next y months.

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So which company benefits the most here? From a cursory googling the following seem decent: - The Whirlpool Corporation - Electrolux AB - LG Electronics Inc. problem is these companies have a lot of exposure to other sectors as well of course.

https://www.skycell.ch/

That company couldn't be more irrelevant to the discussion. They specialize in keeping airplane food at between +2c to +8c on the tarmac in places like Dubai.

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Get some Peloton too. People will probably want to start exercising in their homes.

Yep, time to invest in zoom too. I assume at some stage people will need to make more video calls.

Just make sure it's the right one! https://securityboulevard.com/2020/04/investors-buy-up-the-w...

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The variations are enough to have differences in infectiousness and to allow us to trace the spread a bit, but as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them.

> but as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them. OK. The longevity of the immunity is also an issue perhaps; at least they have written articles about people becoming re-infected; so even the people who do become immune may not stay that way forever...

> so even the people who do become immune may not stay that way forever...

In my country there have been hundreds of thousands of confirmed Covid infections. There have been It's very early to draw the conclusion that people in general don't build up lasting immunity, and there is more than enough data to support that most people do build up immunity of several months at least. If the latter wasn't true you'd see much more re-infections.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Fascinating logistics problem here - distributing a vaccine that needs to be stored at -80C. This is significantly colder than the standard cold logistics chain. I believe Pfizer are working on a special transport box that can, unpowered, stay at the right temperature for a week as long as the box is only opened for something like 1 minute a day. That's a good thing, but with a capacity of I believe 10k vaccine doses…

You don't have to deliver the vaccine into every community. People can travel to nearest next place that has it.

This may be true for urban/suburban US/Europe/China/India, but this is not true for large parts of the world.

There are parts of rural US/Australia for example where despite people having cars, they may need to take a plane to get to a vaccine treatment centre with enough density to get stock. They may not be able to afford that travel even if the vaccine is free.

Much of the African population is spread over small communities where roads may not be reliable, let alone car access. If your minimum distributable unit is 10k vaccines, as it looks like it could be to begin with, that rules out a significant number of the population.

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I know that several of the vaccine candidates require similarly cold storage for their entire distribution cycle until they are being used. Disclaimer: I work for big pharma.

medical freezers of this grade seem to be pretty pricey, in the $6000 range https://www.labrepco.com/product-category/cold-storage-produ...

That's not very pricey as healthcare costs go.

I get Stelara injections every three months; one milliliter is $10k, and that can't be spread out across anyone else.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Great news and the markets are reacting very positively to the news as well which indicates to me this could be the beginning of the end!

the markets? that would be bad news because the markets have had no touch with reality for a long time
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