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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Post by lettergram »

mattzito wrote: post #61
dragonsh wrote: post #44

Hopefully there is more better scientific data on this vaccine before rushing it to top of HN and judgement. I am not sure how to explain 90% immunity from a disease in scientific language, because there are only two states a person get infected with COVID-19 or does not get infected with COVID-19. Not sure how this vaccine will make a person 10% infected and 90% not infected with COVID-19. This is one of the vaccine…

It’s a 90% reduction in cases in a vaccinated population vs unvaccinated. Basically how good is the vaccine at preventing symptomatic infection upon exposure

Real question I have is how well the study was conducted AND how long immunity lasts. Even if both were good here... we won’t have the vaccine widely available until mid to late next year.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

zpeti wrote: post #17

Seems like a good time to buy shares in whoever manufactures industrial sized extra cold freezers.

A bit late; these companies already have vast stocks of the vaccine ready to be deployed once they get greenlit. They will be getting - and have already received - orders and reservations for tens, hundreds of millions of units of a potential vaccine, awaiting testing and approval; see https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8852159/The-video-w..., citing they're aiming to produce 1.3 billion doses next year.

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Post by mulmen »

kbd wrote: post #73
jefftk wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The variations are enough to have differences in infectiousness and to allow us to trace the spread a bit, but as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them.

> as far as we know immunity to any of them is immunity to all of them. What are you basing that on, when there are known cases of people getting coronavirus and then still contracting the other strain of it?

Do you know the reinfection was a different strain? Or did the immunity to the first strain weaken?

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Post by colaclanth »

camhart wrote: post #39

Interesting timing here with regards to the US election. Edit/Update: "She said she learned of the results from the outside panel of experts shortly after 1 p.m. on Sunday, and that the timing was not influenced by the election." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/heal... Edit2: I failed to realize that it was necessary to point out that the timing of this press release is interesting. I wasn't i…

what are you insinuating here?

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Post by drchiu »

I read this with a lot of hope. The -80 degree cold storage part won’t be easy. Most vaccines stored at medical offices are nowhere near that and are only around ~0 degrees C.

Freezer temps are only ~18 deg C.

Possibly will only be able to be administered at special sites or if they find a way to stabilize it at warmer temp.

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Post by ajuc »

TremendousJudge wrote: post #15
3dbrows wrote: post #5

At the time of writing (2020-11-09 12:04 UTC) the article uses "90% of people" and "90% protection" interchangeably. I assume it means "90% of individuals achieve immunity", rather than "individuals achieve 90% immunity". EDIT: See child comment re: Pfizer press release. EDIT 2: See [1] for said press release, which has more detailed information than the BBC article. [1] https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/pre…

First phrasing makes more sense than the second one to me -- what would it even mean for somebody to be "90% immune" to a disease?

In terms of D&D you have +8 to constitution saving throw vs this infection (assuming DC is 10) :)

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

mhb wrote: post #33
zpeti wrote: post #17

Seems like a good time to buy shares in whoever manufactures industrial sized extra cold freezers.

Get some Peloton too. People will probably want to start exercising in their homes.

I think Nintendo will do pretty good as well, Animal Crossing looks like an ideal game for a lockdown.

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Post by t3rabytes »

m12k wrote: post #69

"However, there are logistical challenges as the vaccine has to be kept in ultra-cold storage at below minus 80C." Does anyone know how many of the other vaccine candidates have this limitation? It seems to me that a vaccine with easier logistics might still end up having a bigger impact overall, despite not being the first - although that of course needs to be combined with the ease of production too (I don't know h…

COVID PCR tests waiting to be sent to a lab also need to be frozen.

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Post by vertis »

nsoonhui wrote: post #38

Just curious, why the reaction towards this and the ones from Russia/China are different ?

I think the Russian ones were approved after 'Phase 2' trials. Which are small scale trials. That's their call if they want to start vaccinating with 'half-tested' vaccines, but it doesn't meet the typical international standards which is usually completing Phase 3 trials.

Not sure about the Chinese ones.

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