I think the general trend in western nations is a decline in nutrient deficiencies despite modern agriculture practices.
Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
61–70 of 239 posts
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#62That's why I take supplements on daily basis. Once a year I do health check and add supplements till their level is correct. Besides there is problem with GMO and pesticides. Later on we all have to pay for that with our health. Ideally would be to have own food from own farm where you decide and control how to treat vegetables.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am certain that a vast majority of people have never tasted a "real" tomato. Here in the UK (though I'm sure this applies globally), tomatoes sold in supermarkets taste like plastic. Reason being is that they are picked when they are green and they "ripen" by the time they get to the store shelf. This is done because tomatoes are almost impossible to transfer safely in large quantities, because when they are ripe t…
Can confirm. Does this also apply to canned Tomatos or are those allowed to ripe on soil, because damage didn’t matter? I think they taste better and I’ve Heard- than many top chefs prefer them over “fresh” tomatoes for cooking.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#64Well, who here buys their vegetables based on nutrition? Who even knows how nutritious their particular vegetables are (probably not if you have a lab)? Companies optimize for what customers will pay for, and everything else falls by the wayside.
Strawberries in the USA are huge. Sometimes they remind me of an Apple. Go to Denmark--they're small but packed full of flavor. I would much rather have the smaller ones. I wonder if the large, crisp, apple-esc strawberries really sell better. They're certainly bigger.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#651) Soil depletion - well documented for decades
2) Increased CO2 in the atmosphere https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2018.00924...
3) Companies are getting "better" at maximizing crop production by weight
4) Very lax regulations
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#66This can be both true and irrelevant at the same time. The focus should be on the key nutrients for each food, that is, those food/nutrient pairs that significantly contribute to the required daily values, especially nutrients that the general population is deficient in. I think the general trend in western nations is a decline in nutrient deficiencies despite modern agriculture practices.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#67If you don't think you like greek salad, Let me tell you.
A Greek salad is only going to taste good in greece. Why? because all the ingredients that make up a greek salad are local and in season around the same time. Its not a complex salad and stands entirely on the strength of the produce that makes up its parts. In greece I found it bursting with flavor. The flavors were sublime with tomatoes rich in umami intermingling with spicy olive oil and savory farmer's cheese. Any version you get in America is going to be a pale insult,
In Ukraine, I gorged myself on blueberries. They tasted just like the ones I used to eat from a wild bush near my childhood house.
I'm currently in Turkey. Same story, grilled vegetables and kabaab give me far mroe satisfaction. the produce is JUST more filling, and satisfying.
American produce SUCKS.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#68Well, who here buys their vegetables based on nutrition? Who even knows how nutritious their particular vegetables are (probably not if you have a lab)? Companies optimize for what customers will pay for, and everything else falls by the wayside.
Strawberries in the USA are huge. Sometimes they remind me of an Apple. Go to Denmark--they're small but packed full of flavor. I would much rather have the smaller ones. I wonder if the large, crisp, apple-esc strawberries really sell better. They're certainly bigger.
Apart from that, I had delicious small homegrown ones as a kid, and the occasional almost or totally tasteless medium-sized ones from shops ever since. I always wonder how it feels to be a farmer growing totally tasteless strawberries for a living.
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#69There’s a cognitive bias where if you tell a certain kind of person a negative story about an environmental issue they will believe it, regardless of its content. If you read the article, none of the quoted sources say anything about depleted soil. It says it in the title, that’s it. Bait. What it actually says is plant breeding and other agricultural practices caused the nutritional decline. You breed plants for sto…
Re: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious? (2011)
#70Blueberries that taste the same but are transparent in the middle. Tomatoes that tase water. Cucumber that look great and almost tasteless. You don't know what you are missing if you have never tasted the "real" deal.
> Blueberries that taste the same but are transparent in the middle. These are simply different species: The European blueberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) has dark meat, the North American blueberry (Vaccinium cyanococcus) has whiteish meat.
The farmed blueberries one can buy in a shop here in North Europe are large, and really very different from the blueberries/bilberries one can pick in the nature. Over here (Finland), both are available in shops; the "bilberry" (V. myrtillus) is bought for distribution from people who gather it from forests (often Asian or East European guest workers and even sometimes even retirees who do it for fun and additional income) while V. cyanococcus (V. corymbosum) is imported from commercial farms in Central and Southern Europe, and I suppose is mechanically harvested.