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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by lern_too_spel »

nexuist wrote: post #357
lern_too_spel wrote: post #305

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Why would you expect that? If you deny an app the location permission, you would expect that the app cannot use GPS, and that is exactly what happens on Android. If you want faster location information in return for sharing "anonymized" location information with Google, you can optionally turn on location services to do so. This is considered a big enough privacy invasion that Android devices with Google services ask…

> But if you disable location services, you cannot get your location at all. I think this is exactly what the average user would expect. In fact, users may not think location services have been disabled if apps are still able to show their location after the fact. Do you happen to know if the location look-up (probably for nearby hotspots) is anonymized or not? I can imagine this would be an issue if your specific qu…

> I think this is exactly what the average user would expect

Why would people expect that they can't get their location without telling Apple? On Google Android devices, there is a separate toggle to turn the ability to request your location on and off device-wide in the quick settings toggle that is separate from the ability to turn Google Location Services on and off, which you have to open the full device settings app to toggle after initial setup.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by dredmorbius »

Dahoon wrote: post #245
dredmorbius wrote: post #30

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I've long noted this. Seems to affect both Incognito and standard mode. The screenshot disabling is an absolutely massive strike against Android and Google.

It works just fine in standard mode.

My experience says otherwise, but thanks.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by jamaicahest »

kumarvvr wrote: post #353
dghughes wrote: post #290

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> Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY Samsung disabled the oxygen sensor (SPO2) on their phones for Canada. For other countries they moved access for the SPO2 feature further into the Samsung Health app. But for Canada SPO2 sensor access is gone not accessible. No warning (probably buried in an email) just one day…

Seems to be something about Patent issues or the like. I would certainly demand more information. Who actually opposed the sensor on phones, who actually sued whom, etc.

Why should you, as a consumer, care about internal legal issues between the manufacturer of your phone and some other company? If the manufacturer decides, for whatever reason, to remove features from the phone after you purchased it, I think it is reasonable for the transaction to be reversed, i.e. refund me the full amount for the phone and I will return the phone.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by rbecker »

jamaicahest wrote: post #363
kumarvvr wrote: post #353

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Seems to be something about Patent issues or the like. I would certainly demand more information. Who actually opposed the sensor on phones, who actually sued whom, etc.

Why should you, as a consumer, care about internal legal issues between the manufacturer of your phone and some other company? If the manufacturer decides, for whatever reason, to remove features from the phone after you purchased it, I think it is reasonable for the transaction to be reversed, i.e. refund me the full amount for the phone and I will return the phone.

If a publisher is found to have published a book without license, would it be reasonable to find all who bought the book, break into their homes, take the book, and leave in its place the purchase price in cash?

If not, then why is doing the same, but on a computer, remotely reasonable?

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by jlokier »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #158
jlokier wrote: post #74

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Some banks and bank-like products only make themselves available by mobile app. It's a commercial decision, and seems to have been a trend with some "challenger" banks. I have two of those, and I chose them because of unique banking features (not the mobile app) not offered by other banks which I found valuable. It's nothing to do with the country. To be honest it would be nice to have web access as well (or even pho…

It's never safe to bank from a computer you can't control. I would always consider a phone to be compromised. These are the richest targets going for exploits so why risk it.

Although I agree with you, it turns out which banks and similar facilities you use can greatly affect the amount of credit you have access to, how you can use it, and how long the process takes.

During this pandemic I've found that to be a big deal, much more important than whatever technology or access method is offered.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by eythian »

crummy wrote: post #273
andybak wrote: post #192

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Like "disable right click" on websites I really struggle to see how this is useful to Tesco in any way. It's trivial to bypass. What's their threat model here?

I don't know about Tesco but I believe it's common on bank apps to prevent malware from screen grabbing your details when your bank app is open.

Yeah, I've seen it on other apps where the payment flow screens block screenshots for this reason.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by swiley »

toastal wrote: post #301
jlokier wrote: post #74

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Some banks and bank-like products only make themselves available by mobile app. It's a commercial decision, and seems to have been a trend with some "challenger" banks. I have two of those, and I chose them because of unique banking features (not the mobile app) not offered by other banks which I found valuable. It's nothing to do with the country. To be honest it would be nice to have web access as well (or even pho…

In Thailand the bank I have, Kasikorn, charges for ATM usage outside of the registered province even from the same network... UNLESS you use their cardless withdraw that uses some QR code for TOTP that requires the app (that will attempt to block phones with root access). You can use the website as well for some things, but it requires SMS-based OTP with no supported alternatives. I'd switch banks or at least branche…

Yeah that's Thailand though. Your king doesn't even let you visit PornHub if he's not in the mood.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by I_complete_me »

another_comment wrote: post #332
jtxx wrote: post #186

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Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

Amen to Linux Phones. We need more choices! I got so sick of these kind of shenanigans, I built a simple, non-mobile phone with a Raspberry Pi 3B+, a Raspberry Pi 7 inch touchscreen, and a Logitech headset. It runs off Wi-Fi or Ethernet only. It does voice and SMS only, but it does what it does very well. I wrote all the software myself (Python3 and C). I've been using this as my daily driver for over a year now. I'm…

Can't wait to see this. Where should I look?

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by another_comment »

I_complete_me wrote: post #369
another_comment wrote: post #332

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Amen to Linux Phones. We need more choices! I got so sick of these kind of shenanigans, I built a simple, non-mobile phone with a Raspberry Pi 3B+, a Raspberry Pi 7 inch touchscreen, and a Logitech headset. It runs off Wi-Fi or Ethernet only. It does voice and SMS only, but it does what it does very well. I wrote all the software myself (Python3 and C). I've been using this as my daily driver for over a year now. I'm…

Can't wait to see this. Where should I look?

I'll post here on hacker news once I get a web site up and running. Look for a post from this user name (another_comment). I'll also post here in the comments of appropriate posts.

Thanks for the interest.

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