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Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by lern_too_spel »

pmontra wrote: post #23
nextos wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad. I'm a Linux diehard, but during the pandemic I considered buying an iPad to SSH into my office workstation, browse the web, etc. as I got stuck in an awkward accommodation. Hardware is great, but the keyboard lacks a dedicated ESC, and I was quite uncomfortable with the fact that terminal apps seem like second rate citizens / not well liked by Apple. IMHO, there's a lot of untapped potential in the iPad as…

Android keyboards also lack Esc. The key in that place implements the go to home functionality (Android's middle button.) My use case is the now deprecated / defunct Linux container in Samsung's Dex. I didn't find a way to configure the keyboard and X11 to map it to an Esc for Linux. I've been using Control [, which is a little pain.

Some keyboards have escape. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketwork...

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by threeseed »

pvtmert wrote: post #17

One can tell apple that any application that shows web pages essentially remotely executing code on their device.

Apple requires all web browsers to use the WebKit engine.

So nothing on iOS devices is executed in an environment they don't control.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by Tade0 »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

As beautiful and polished as iOS is it is policies like these that keep me on Android. I wish iSH the best of luck, but I will stick with Termux ( https://termux.com/ ) on Android for now.

Same. With Termux I was able to set up a rudimentary Node.js dev environment on my device - useful for showing people stuff I was working on which wasn't published.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by bigbubba »

raverbashing wrote: post #24
kmeisthax wrote: post #13

Apple: the iPad Pro is a computer Also Apple: how dare you make a sandboxed shell environment for it

"what's a computer" And I might add. Until you are able to develop an iPad app in itself, it is not replacing "a real one"

A computer without software is no longer a computer?

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by dylan604 »

"we received a call from Apple"

is this a literal statement where some human from Apple called on the telephone to speak to someone about this situation, or is this a phrase that actually means they received an email notification about the situation? I ask because it seems well outside the norm of no-human contact regarding support from FAANG companies.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by ampdepolymerase »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #14
cute_boi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i thought termux is going to have issue in latest version of andriod? This is what we get from monopoly.

The Termux developers have a plan ( https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-An... ). >> This is what we get from monopoly. Agreed. The Apple / Google mobile OS dualopy leaves few choices.

This is the side effect when people espouse "scaling software" and "software is eating the world". Whoever scales first eats the world.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by threeseed »

Osiris wrote: post #27

> Consistent enforcement of Apple’s incorrect interpretation would require the removal of all scripting apps, including many of the most popular applications in the App Store and some of Apple’s own applications. The problem with "consistent enforcement" is 1) the guidelines are purposefully vague 2) there are reports of unwritten internal rules that are different from the public rules 3) I suspect that the amount of…

1) and 3) are simply nonsense.

The guidelines are quite specific. What has happened is that over time new applications and use cases have arisen for which the guidelines were never designed for e.g. remote app streaming.

Also Adobe, Google and Microsoft contribute significantly to Apple's bottom line and they have all had apps blocked.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by dahfizz »

nextos wrote: post #12
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

As beautiful and polished as iOS is it is policies like these that keep me on Android. I wish iSH the best of luck, but I will stick with Termux ( https://termux.com/ ) on Android for now.

It's sad. I'm a Linux diehard, but during the pandemic I considered buying an iPad to SSH into my office workstation, browse the web, etc. as I got stuck in an awkward accommodation. Hardware is great, but the keyboard lacks a dedicated ESC, and I was quite uncomfortable with the fact that terminal apps seem like second rate citizens / not well liked by Apple. IMHO, there's a lot of untapped potential in the iPad as…

Did you consider a chromebook? I've been thinking about getting a chromebook as an ssh terminal for a while.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by burrows »

mortenjorck wrote: post #28

This isn’t sustainable. Software developers can’t build on a foundation that is constantly, capriciously shifting. This on top of the App Store's already-onerous restrictions and the fact that it’s the only practical way to get your software on one of the world's largest computing platforms has already engendered a deep antipathy [1] among Apple developers, and there are no signs it’s getting better. Something has to…

Nah.

If the current crop of developers leaves the platform then another crop will take their place.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by dheera »

pmontra wrote: post #23
nextos wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad. I'm a Linux diehard, but during the pandemic I considered buying an iPad to SSH into my office workstation, browse the web, etc. as I got stuck in an awkward accommodation. Hardware is great, but the keyboard lacks a dedicated ESC, and I was quite uncomfortable with the fact that terminal apps seem like second rate citizens / not well liked by Apple. IMHO, there's a lot of untapped potential in the iPad as…

Android keyboards also lack Esc. The key in that place implements the go to home functionality (Android's middle button.) My use case is the now deprecated / defunct Linux container in Samsung's Dex. I didn't find a way to configure the keyboard and X11 to map it to an Esc for Linux. I've been using Control [, which is a little pain.

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