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Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by Shank »

reikonomusha wrote: post #16
jpxw wrote: post #7

Hadn’t heard of iSH before now, but I just downloaded. Seems likely that this will become another example of Streisand effect!

This is not really an example of that effect. This is just the nature of news. The app won’t somehow become any more used after it’s removed because it’ll be, well, removed.

> The app won’t somehow become any more used after it’s removed because it’ll be, well, removed.

On the contrary: it can be distributed through TestFlight, and potentially even available in AltStore. If added to AltStore, it would make that platform much more well known. In addition, if users install it from the App Store right now, it's signed and won't disappear or expire after any period of time. AltStore, TestFlight builds, etc., all require routine maintenance to stop from expiring. The iOS App Store release, however, will continue to function indefinitely, even if Apple pulls it from sale.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by pmontra »

nextos wrote: post #12
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

As beautiful and polished as iOS is it is policies like these that keep me on Android. I wish iSH the best of luck, but I will stick with Termux ( https://termux.com/ ) on Android for now.

It's sad. I'm a Linux diehard, but during the pandemic I considered buying an iPad to SSH into my office workstation, browse the web, etc. as I got stuck in an awkward accommodation. Hardware is great, but the keyboard lacks a dedicated ESC, and I was quite uncomfortable with the fact that terminal apps seem like second rate citizens / not well liked by Apple. IMHO, there's a lot of untapped potential in the iPad as…

Android keyboards also lack Esc. The key in that place implements the go to home functionality (Android's middle button.) My use case is the now deprecated / defunct Linux container in Samsung's Dex. I didn't find a way to configure the keyboard and X11 to map it to an Esc for Linux. I've been using Control [, which is a little pain.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by ryukafalz »

nextos wrote: post #12
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #2

As beautiful and polished as iOS is it is policies like these that keep me on Android. I wish iSH the best of luck, but I will stick with Termux ( https://termux.com/ ) on Android for now.

It's sad. I'm a Linux diehard, but during the pandemic I considered buying an iPad to SSH into my office workstation, browse the web, etc. as I got stuck in an awkward accommodation. Hardware is great, but the keyboard lacks a dedicated ESC, and I was quite uncomfortable with the fact that terminal apps seem like second rate citizens / not well liked by Apple. IMHO, there's a lot of untapped potential in the iPad as…

> I eventually ended up getting a Surface Go, which is quirky is some regards, but supports Linux really well and is a real computer, not a locked appliance.

Doesn’t have working cameras though, right? I was looking into the Surface Go a bit as a Linux tablet recently, but it sounded like I wouldn’t have a working webcam (which I use fairly often these days for videoconferencing) and I’d need to install a kernel fork since some of the hardware isn’t supported yet in mainline Linux.

I’d be glad to be wrong about these, since a lightweight Linux tablet (especially with LTE support!) would be amazing. My criteria for hardware that supports Linux really well these days though is more “works out of the box” and less “requires tinkering.”

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by Osiris »

> Consistent enforcement of Apple’s incorrect interpretation would require the removal of all scripting apps, including many of the most popular applications in the App Store and some of Apple’s own applications.

The problem with "consistent enforcement" is

1) the guidelines are purposefully vague

2) there are reports of unwritten internal rules that are different from the public rules

3) I suspect that the amount of revenue that a company brings through their app also affects how rules are applied

But, it's their platform and they can do whatever the hell the way with no (legal) consequences at all.

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by mortenjorck »

This isn’t sustainable.

Software developers can’t build on a foundation that is constantly, capriciously shifting. This on top of the App Store's already-onerous restrictions and the fact that it’s the only practical way to get your software on one of the world's largest computing platforms has already engendered a deep antipathy [1] among Apple developers, and there are no signs it’s getting better. Something has to give.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23580762

Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store

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Post by dylan604 »

Osiris wrote: post #27

> Consistent enforcement of Apple’s incorrect interpretation would require the removal of all scripting apps, including many of the most popular applications in the App Store and some of Apple’s own applications. The problem with "consistent enforcement" is 1) the guidelines are purposefully vague 2) there are reports of unwritten internal rules that are different from the public rules 3) I suspect that the amount of…

> 3) I suspect that the amount of revenue that a company brings through their app also affects how rules are applied

It didn't affect Epic. Break the rules, get the boot.

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