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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by fsflover »

reaperducer wrote: post #205
anonymou2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but it is not really your phone if it runs proprietary software. It is like in medieval times, you didn't own the means of production. Welcome your new digital overlords!!

Sorry but it is not really your phone if it runs proprietary software There isn't a mobile phone on the planet that doesn't run proprietary software at some level.

Strictly speaking you are right, but Librem 5 [0] is going to get Respects Your Freedom certification from the Free Software Foundation, which is a high bar. If it's not enough for you, see also: Precursor [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5

[1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by supernova87a »

anonymou2 wrote: post #110
_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

Sorry but it is not really your phone if it runs proprietary software. It is like in medieval times, you didn't own the means of production. Welcome your new digital overlords!!

There is a kind of half-formed philosophy out there which believes we can get back to some false utopian small-collective agri-mercantile worker paradise.

It doesn't exist, and never did. Learn how to adapt and make the most of the systems that exist now.

I dare to say, if you even actually achieved those fantastical scenarios, the damper on economic and population prosperity would be such that you might not have been conceived to wish for it.

It's a little extreme to let a mobile phone's operating system call for the revamp of our economic systems.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by Spivak »

unethical_ban wrote: post #183
rzk wrote: post #3

Anyone else noticed that you can't take screenshots on Android when using Chrome Incognito mode? "Can't take screenshot due to security policy". I don't understand the rationale behind it. Why can't I take a screenshot of my own phone?

That is what is so nuts about this comment thread. People assume this is some illogical or nefarious decision by Google. Usually, these things are privacy related, or to prevent nefarious apps from capturing data without your permission. Perhaps "Screen capture" should be in the permissions API instead of blocking it... But for all the people complaining here, is there a legitimate app with this function that you use…

Signal and most banking apps have it.

The feature isn’t literally supposed to prevent you from recording the screen, but it’s enough of an annoyance/deterrent that people don’t. The goal is to prevent people from having sensitive information sitting in their camera roll by accident and send a unambiguous signal to the user that you shouldn’t be screenshoting it.

It’s the same feature Gmail enterprise offers that “blocks downloading and forwarding.” Like of course literally it doesn’t and can’t possibly prevent someone motivated but it drastically reduces the chance of someone leaking confidential information when they have to go through a bunch of kludgy steps.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by nexuist »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #133
dannyw wrote: post #117

It's blocking you from taking screenshots today. It's blocking you from disabling location services tomorrow.

This is a bug with incorrect handling of the .nomedia file. iOS already doesn't allow you to disable location services. That is intended behavior.

What are you talking about? You can easily disable location services on any Apple device.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by Spivak »

kllrnohj wrote: post #176
Lucasoato wrote: post #11

This is absurd... Why are the apps alerted when the user is taking a screenshot? Why can they even block that action? How can people even change that since Android is directly controlled by Google?

The app isn't alerted. Rather apps can indicate they have sensitive information via FLAG_SECURE. This is useful in preventing things like your bank account information from persisting in the recents snapshots. Why this blocks manual screenshots with no override though is bonkers insane. But likely a case of an incomplete feature than malice as it's not unreasonable to assume both entry points for screenshots hit the…

> Why this blocks manual screenshots with no override though is bonkers insane

Because they don’t want sensitive information persisting in your camera roll.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by TedShiller »

_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

iPhone

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by nexuist »

dannyw wrote: post #117

It's blocking you from taking screenshots today. It's blocking you from disabling location services tomorrow.

It should be noted that there are legitimate reasons for blocking screenshots; on corporate managed devices handling sensitive data e.g. files or PDFs for example. Obviously if the device is owned by the company then the company is well within its rights to control what functionality is available (just as a solo user is within their rights to control what the device is doing at all times). This is a bug where the device is somehow being tricked into thinking this functionality has been disabled by its owner, when in reality it has not been.

There are also legitimate reasons for blocking the disabling of location services. If I have devices with proprietary applications or access to proprietary data sitting in a secured room, I want to make sure nobody can take that device out of the room, and if they do, the device should enter some sort of lockdown or sleep mode so as to prevent the leaking of sensitive information. This is a legitimate feature that would make sense to implement on commercial (not consumer) devices. That the OS ships with the ability to disable disabling location services is not an indictment on the OS - it is only an indictment if the OS does so without your permission.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by andybak »

This is where a small bit of editorializing in the post title might be useful. The linked page is about a bug when you use .nomedia which is kind of interesting in it's own right. However most replies here seem to be on the broader topic of whether an OS should be able to block screenshots - this is another interesting topic but one that's only vaguely related to the linked page.

I'm curious if the /u/distalx posted this because they were interested in a discussion about the former or the latter.

If the former then it has largely strayed off topic. If the former then there might be a better page to link to that is more clearly about that specific "feature".

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

smolder wrote: post #165
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do if you own stock.

Owning a fragment isn't quite the same as owning the whole thing. Majority stock ownership would be close enough.

Most people don't have the money to afford to own an entire factory, and if they did its still more secure for them to diversify by owning many pieces of many factories in different industries, that's why capitalists figured out how to commodify the means of production as stocks. Its not quite the same, its better.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by lsb »

As long as the content is coming to your eyes, you can use another device to record it.

If you have a separate phone that you use as a second factor for your 2FA, you have a convenient way of photodocumenting any screen that you see.

People shakily recording their TV doesn't win any awards, but is evidence enough in a serious pinch.

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