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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by dastx »

neurostimulant wrote: post #156
_odey wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won't unlocking the bootloader make banking apps not work anymore? Had this issue when I tried LineageOS on my old phone, and I really like the convenience of those apps as opposed to using the website, which is extremely bad. Also, how do I do all you said above? (I need a step by step tutorial). Also is it reversible? Are there any other security implications?

Your mileage might vary, but I'm using 4 banking app (one of them even disallow taking screenshot in Android 10) but they are working on custom rom (lineageos) with unlocked bootloader as long as I don't install root.

In case you want to root, you can use magisk hide to prevent banking apps from knowing you've rooted.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by shawnz »

gst wrote: post #193
shawnz wrote: post #65

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By what rationale can you say that blocking sideloading is good for the user but not blocking screenshots?

One benefit of blocking sideloading is that it prevents people who have brief access to your phone (border agents, police, etc.) from installing spyware apps on the phone. On iOS those people can extract your data as local backup, but they won't be able to install any unapproved apps that run in the background and that monitor you. On Android it's trivial to install spyware apps via sideloading and regular users most…

Right, and so on platforms where sideloading is allowed doesn't it make sense to restrict the ways in which apps might be able to see the screen contents of other apps, for the benefit of the user?

It's the same justification in both cases: ensuring the user's data stays private. I would prefer no screenshots over no sideloading if those are the only options.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by cesarb »

exikyut wrote: post #148
raffraffraff wrote: post #124

2021 will be the year of Linux on the ... Phone

Heh, sentiment noted - but the PinePhone is a thing now, so... let's see just how bad GTK and Qt can be on mobile, eh? :D

> let's see just how bad GTK and Qt can be on mobile

GTK and Qt on mobile is not a new thing, Maemo/Meego were earlier examples. In my experience, it worked fine.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by [deleted] »

detaro wrote: post #197
hfktifjrn wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal app on Android blocks screenshots too (configurable). Does that mean that they are clueless about security?

Signal does not pretend that it will stop the other side from screenshotting your messages.

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by benlivengood »

_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

Don't use apps. Aside from games and sensor integration they can rarely offer more than a web-based experience. Push for more safe hardware sensor integration in browsers.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by LMYahooTFY »

reaperducer wrote: post #201
jtxx wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

There’s still a lot of dev work to be done An incomplete choice is not a choice. He wants to cross a bridge without paying a toll. Telling him that he can take a rickety bridge, an unsupported bridge, build his own bridge, or wait for a new bridge to be finished doesn't get him to the other side.

You're right but I think you're missing the point. I read that as a call to action (this is HN), not a dismissal of a problem.

They're saying we're not getting a solution from the corporate sector, so we need to build it.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by _odey »

zrobotics wrote: post #200
_odey wrote: post #163

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> Question: if there's no website, how TF are you supposed to use Monzo or Revolut from a proper computer? You can't. That's why you don't use them for serious work. > why did you even open an account Different use cases, different circumstances. I don't depend on them but they give good exchange rates and zero fees when transferring or spending money abroad. It's the "it just works" and "fast and cheap" effect that…

Oh wow, that's even worse than I thought. Thanks for the explanation, that does make sense. I wonder if they could get in trouble for AML, or possibly Barclay's is just being overly picky with who they want as customers. But seriously, not even a support email? Good God, I would trust PayPal with my money more than that; but I suppose they needed to hit all the fintech bingo buzzwords.

They have to do a KYC (know your client) check, which I assume they do a credit check on you, probably via Experian or another one of these. You also send a picture of your ID, and record a video of yourself saying "Hello, I'm $NAME and I want to open an account with $COMPANY".

The Barclay's part is just an old practice. How I ended up doing it after two months was by having a letter from my employer stating that I'm registered with them at a particular address. But what I learned from somebody else that went through this, after those two months, is that they could have said my "home" address was the address the company is registered at instead. This is how they've used to do it with other people that have hit this problem, it just didn't occur to me to ask for something like this, and it didn't occur to them to suggest this either since they assumed I had everything in order (since I already submitted my Monzo account for salary payments).

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by fsflover »

jtxx wrote: post #186
_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

Or, if you're not a programmer and want to support GNU/Linux phones, consider Librem 5.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by ForHackernews »

benlivengood wrote: post #215
_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

Don't use apps. Aside from games and sensor integration they can rarely offer more than a web-based experience. Push for more safe hardware sensor integration in browsers.

God no! The browser does not need to be an even bigger attack surface than it is today.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by Spivak »

grenoire wrote: post #210
m45t3r wrote: post #204

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iOS and PS4 also does have this block if the developer wishes to do so (generally for "security" reasons).

or for DRM reasons...

Nah, the DRM on iPhones is much stronger than screenshot protection. When you’re watching DRM protected media you can still take screenshots but the part of the screen that has the content will be blacked out. Basically all forms of reading pixels from DRM windows just return nothing.
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