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Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by simonh »

wilde wrote: post #40
simonh wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a simple consistent principle in operation. If an app is simply a neutral front end to a distributed set of independent back end services that are not managed by the owner of the app, then the app owner is not responsible for the content. Web browsers clearly match this description as the browser developer isn’t responsible for all the web sites you could visit. But it also applies to email clients, Mastodon…

A closer analogy would be “what’s next? Apple approving all movies in Netflix?” The simple and consistent principle Apple applies is “how much negotiating leverage does this app developer have?”

If Netflix started putting porn in their portfolio, how long do you think their app would stay in the store?

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Post by matheusmoreira »

mulmen wrote: post #256
ravenstine wrote: post #172

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Ain't gonna happen. This is how they want it. If they didn't, Big Tech would have been better regulated long ago. Having top down control over communication through private multinationals that all politically act in unison is exactly what the state desires.

The state desires what the voters demand. Apathy will be the death of liberty.

It is a simple matter to make voters demand central control of all computing resources. All they have to do is mention the fact that terrorists, drug dealers and child molesters also happen to be computer users. Can't even offer a counter-argument against that without being marked as a pedophile sympathizer.

Put enough fear into the population and they'll accept anything any authority presents as a solution. That's the danger of relying on democracy. You depend on the public to do the right thing and the public is easily manipulated.

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Post by flak48 »

cblconfederate wrote: post #12

Maybe they are seeking "special arrangements" from major providers, like their very lucrative search agreement with google. Maybe that's Apple's model going forward.

So what Apple is saying is basically "Nice app you've got there, shame if anything happened to it"

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Post by freakynit »

I say all companies should boycott Apple until it learns to play fairly. Apple is nothing if majority of bigger services and apps are not available on it's app store while available elsewhere. People should realize this is similar to uniting and revolting against dictatorships. The premise of the situation is same. Apple should realize it's 1 trillion+ valuation is nothing if no one buys or sells anything to/from it.

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Post by actuator »

manigandham wrote: post #253
threeseed wrote: post #198

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Sony, Microsoft etc sell their hardware at a loss and recoup through software licensing. Which is not possible if you going to force them to do things like have alternative app stores or to allow any content to be used.

Ok, let's say this happens. Why is this a bad thing? So consoles get slightly more expensive, or other revenue streams are created. Steam, Origin, Epic, UPlay and GOG all compete on the desktop while earning plenty, even though people can download games directly from the publisher today. Why can't the same model be applied to consoles which have always been basically pre-built mini computers anyway? If you say that a…

I am all in favour of even going after game consoles if it helps other platforms but smartphones are worth fighting for first.

Smartphones are logical successors to PCs as general purpose computing devices. A lot of people just have them as their device for photo editing, emails, gaming, spreadsheet editing, web browsing etc.

PCs had open software and hardware access, I think it is reasonable for us to want their logical successors to atleast have open software access.

There is trillions of dollars of ecosystem which PC had which has largely extended/moved to smartphones. Everyone should get a chance to compete on fair and equal terms in this ecosystem.

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Post by raghavtoshniwal »

Just trying to think functionally here:

Netflix now has “interactive” video content (see: Bandersnatch). Isn’t a streaming video game service same as “interactive” video. If so, isn’t Apple almost saying they’d also have to approve every video on the Netflix platform?

Or am I missing something?

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Post by umvi »

woah wrote: post #263

Apple has always individually approved apps on iPhone. Is that news to anyone here? Why would they change that policy just because of some low-level implementation detail around whether the interface is rendered on the server or the client?

Apple doesn't have to approve every video streamed from the YouTube app. Apple doesn't have to approve every website accessed from a browser app. So why does apple have to approve every video game accessible though a video game streaming app?
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