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Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by bigbubba »

treve wrote: post #133
Aeolun wrote: post #71

This is silly. They’re not seperately approving every app on my VNC server either.

If you break any concept/law down far enough, it becomes kinda meaningless. Terms of use, or laws don't have to be written in perfect logical consistency. The important thing is intent. The intent is not to block things that resemble running an application remotely. The intent here is controlling everything that could possibly be sold/distributed as something resembling an application or game. I see these kinds of co…

> If you break any concept/law down far enough, it becomes kinda meaningless.

I call bullshit, I think it's mostly just bad laws that become ridiculous when 'broken down'. If you want to convince me otherwise, demonstrate your claim using laws against murder (unambiguously good laws.)

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by zepto »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #5
nitrogen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use an iPhone/etc so I'm curious, do they block remote desktop applications?

No they don't. They don't have a competing service there yet.

You mean it isn’t a way to bypass the store?

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by zepto »

627467 wrote: post #11

Seems odd (to be charitable and say the least)... Do they vet music/movie streaming services content too?

Streaming apps arrives are a way to bypass the App Store.

That’s why they are banned unless the individual apps or games are submitted individually.

It’s not really surprising they don’t want other companies running storefronts on iOS.

The ‘consistency’ argument is just not valid.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by Dahoon »

kd913 wrote: post #106
madjam002 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m on iPhone thinking of making the switch too. Any privacy tips you recommend for Android?

Get a raspberry pi and setup pihole with wireguard and dnscrypt-proxy. Get a hostname and basically tunnel your DNS requests to that pihole. Use Firefox and signal instead of say chrome. Disable the assistant and be aware of the privacy controls of your google account. Looking at the DNS requests made so far, it doesn't seem that much worse than an ipad or iphone. I think it depends on what you are also keeping priva…

Why would you tunnel your DNS requests when you can just switch DNS on the phone to a filtering one and also use blocklists, IE. with Blokada? Unless you route everything, not only default DNS, through the VPN, any app can just hardcode its own DNS ip and if you route everything through the VPN Blokada will do exactly the same but without an extra hop. Sounds terribly complicated for something that gives less security and privacy. Mind you that is coming from someone who runs 3 Piholes on a homelab.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by zinekeller »

gfxgirl wrote: post #120
jagged-chisel wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Safari team" doesn't necessarily have the same motivations as "App Store review team." Apple, as a company, needs to play nice with the web.

lol. There's a reason Safari is called the new IE. So many features missing or buggy, not following standards.

Actually, most developers with an opinion on "new IE" says that Google Chrome is the new IE. There are cases of Firefox and Safari implementing features and Chrome-specific behavior that they won't endorse but are used by webistes (notably, unsurprisingly, Google's sites) [1, 2, 3]. Additionally, there are features that most have requested but are effectively being blocked by Google [3].

1: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/04/twitter-direct-message-cac...

2: If you have Firefox, browse about:compat to see Firefox's workarounds to websites which relies on Chrome-specific behavior.

3: Firefox implementing a wholesale change that maps "-webkit"-prefixed CSS properties (usually implemented by Chrome even, so Google should used "-blink" (the name of their HTML/CSS engine) since "-webkit" is for Safari's changes) to the standard and/or "-moz" equivalents for websites who are using it.

4: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24959588

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by pmontra »

immigrantsheep wrote: post #86
sillysaurusx wrote: post #22

Apple has always wanted to block "browser" type apps. If it can be used to install or view hundreds of other apps, then it's probably not a good fit for the iOS garden. We willingly give Apple money under this premise. I'm not sure why this is surprising.

But I can play games from my browser. And I can play games that are available through the Facebook app.

Facebook or WeChat, Apple can't ban them. Game streaming, they can. Maybe they'll change the rule in 1, 2 or 5 years if game streaming becomes so big to move enough of their customers to Android. Then they'll claim they're introducing an incredible thing. Remember copy and paste on the iPhone 3 GS? https://www.idownloadblog.com/2009/07/17/iphone-3gs-stupid-t...

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Post by zinekeller »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #95
threeseed wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is still a movie and so would be regulated under existing movie classification systems. And since movies are over a century old every country has a similar regulatory framework. Most countries do not have an equivalent for apps/games and so it is ultimately left to Apple to regulate.

What regulations are those? Netflix has Minecraft Story Mode now https://www.netflix.com/title/80227995 . What regulations are being applied, and how are those incompatible with video games? Also aren't movie rating systems like the MPA self-regulated? Not required by law. There's already equivalent systems for video games with PEGI and ESRB.

The American MPA is self-regulated (probably simply to put it into legal territory, since legislating it would probably prevent freedom of expression and translates to censorship, especially if the authority is directly government-controlled) but some other systems are legislated (not just in countries you think as opressive, mind you: Britain has an independent organization that rates movies but are approved by the government).

Still a bit flawed though: I thought that there is already a ratings board in America for software?

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