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Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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post #71

This is silly. They’re not seperately approving every app on my VNC server either.

You’re not VNC’ing into a game machine, though.

ahem a game machine you’re playing rented games on

VNC is used for machine you already own, so that’s why it’s allowed.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#122
post #3

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I don't use an iPhone/etc so I'm curious, do they block remote desktop applications?

No they don't. They don't have a competing service there yet.

They did block steam link remote desktop for a while

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#123

Apple has always wanted to block "browser" type apps. If it can be used to install or view hundreds of other apps, then it's probably not a good fit for the iOS garden. We willingly give Apple money under this premise. I'm not sure why this is surprising.

>We willingly give Apple money under this premise. There are not enough competitors for this to actually be something you can choose. I use and will continue to use iphones because I care about privacy and updates. That doesn't mean I like what is happening with this case.

I agree but you're supporting the practice financially.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#124
post #28

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How do apps like WeChat are allowed then? There are entire platforms and mini-programs inside.

Section 5.1.2(iii) of the App Store Review Guidelines has a special exception for Apps with a 1 billion install base from a country where the government doesn't give two hoots about your App Store Review Guidelines.

The actual guideline made for WeChat is 4.7:

> Apps may contain or run code that is not embedded in the binary (e.g. HTML5-based games, bots, etc.), as long as code distribution isn’t the main purpose of the app, the code is not offered in a store or store-like interface, and provided that the software (1) is free or purchased using in-app purchase; (2) only uses capabilities available in a standard WebKit view (e.g. it must open and run natively in Safari without modifications or additional software); your app must use WebKit and JavaScript Core to run third-party software and should not attempt to extend or expose native platform APIs to third-party software; (3) is offered by developers that have joined the Apple Developer Program and signed the Apple Developer Program License Agreement; (4) does not provide access to real money gaming, lotteries, or charitable donations; (5) adheres to the terms of these App Review Guidelines (e.g. does not include objectionable content); and (6) does not offer digital goods or services for sale. Upon request, you must provide an index of software and metadata available in your app. It must include Apple Developer Program Team IDs for the providers of the software along with a URL which App Review can use to confirm that the software complies with the requirements above.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#127
post #50

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There’s as many exceptions to that rule as there are examples: Twitch, video conferencing (Zoom, Teams, etc), text chat (Slack, IRC, Telegram, WhatsApp), social media (Twitter, Facebook), web pages themselves. I think the reason is Apple are making a stand here is simply because Xbox and Google have released subscriptions games streaming services after Apple released a subscription gaming service (albeit not streamin…

>There’s as many exceptions to that rule as there are examples: Twitch, video conferencing (Zoom, Teams, etc), text chat (Slack, IRC, Telegram, WhatsApp), social media (Twitter, Facebook), web pages themselves. How are these exceptions to the rule? None of those platforms are the source of the content being provided. That's the primary reason why this distinction exists.

Netflix isn't really the source of most of its content, either.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

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post #116

Just more evidence that large platform and device owners will try to gate-keep and landgrab as much as they can and try to destroy the open web and force competitors into financial agreements to collect economic rent. There finally needs to be regulation on this. No banning of end user services as long as they're legal, I don't want a phone maker controlling what I do on the internet. It's ridiculous. Microsoft in th…

> There finally needs to be regulation on this. No banning of end user services as long as they're legal I was with you up until this moment. Doesn't this just shift the power to a less accountable authority in the state? What about content that isn't legal but which is, you know, not child abuse or similar? Does that deserve a platform also? I think that being able to view content on a phone regardless of its approv…

The state already bans illegal content. The question is whether we also want a second party banning it.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#129
post #27

Wasn't even a year ago that I was singing Apple's praises for focussing on privacy. I don't feel the same way any more, and I've been happier with an Android device since.

Their App Store team is completely shooting the rest of Apple in the foot, and I’m amazed that no one there seems to realize this. They are burning good will faster than they can create it.

Re: Apple blocks game streaming services unless individual games are approved

#130
post #90

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Netflix is bigger than the nascent game streaming market and more apple users (including me) expect to be able to use it. If they told netflix "we have to approve each movie and tv show on your service, and possibly take revenue from you on a per-video basis", then netflix would walk and would be smart to do so because it's pretty likely apple would come up the loser in that fight. Again, huge number of users, existi…

Your argument is that majority consensus overrides individual freedoms and that is preposterous .

That seems like a reductive interpretation. Can you explain which individual's freedoms are being overridden? And why is the argument preposterous?
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