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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by harimau777 »

jariel wrote: post #730
ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Please don't assume that 'one side' has the unilateral moral authority to 'make things better and less divided'. This implication directly contradicts the part about 'unity'. 'One side' having the run of the system will absolutely lead to greater divisions. Trump is gone, I think most reasonable people will take solace in that. Now that he is gone, having regular checks and balances is a 'good thing'. Having the 'oth…

Don't we first need to undo the damage that Trump has done? I can see getting to a point where neither side acts unilaterally, but only after things have been balanced to actually be in the center between the sides.

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Post by abvdasker »

erichocean wrote: post #420

Favorite fact about the 2020 election: Biden not only got more Black votes than Obama, he got a higher percentage of the Democratic Black vote (highest in history, in fact). IOW, Biden is significantly more popular among Blacks than Obama was in 2008 (or 2012). Amazing!

To me, a more plausible explanation is that Trump is uniquely unpopular with black voters.

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Post by davrosthedalek »

harimau777 wrote: post #671
ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Is there really any common ground? My experience talking to the other side during this administration is that they are completely unable and often unwilling to consider any argument or information that conflicts with their views. How do you debate with people who don't care about facts or reason? In addition their leadership appears to be completely unwilling to act and good faith and the rank in file appear unwillin…

Try to assume their views, and then work from there. What would you believe if you start out with the opposite's viewpoint? What is the easiest acceptable modification of their believe system? Move them step by step.

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Post by mseidl »

bfieidhbrjr wrote: post #224

It's amazing. My friends on the left think the only reason for voting trump is racism, and friends on the right think the only reason for voting biden is socialism. Where did all the intellect go? The social dilemma documentary I think is very useful. It feels like social media bubbles are a large component, although of course there have been many contentious elections in the past. Being centrist I can relate to part…

Well if you vote for Trump you like what he says or it doesn't bother you enough, then that speaks volumes. Like when he called Mexicans rapists/murderers/drug dealers, or when he made fun of a disabled reporter, or said a women was too ugly to rape. Trump is just a horrible person. I'm German, a and left wing European.(I used to live in the US also). I don't like democrats politically. But if I could have, I would've voted for them as I view them not as destructive as republicans. But, even if Trump was as left as Sanders, one of the few American politicians I actually like, I wouldn't vote for him.

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Post by tbwriting »

anonu wrote: post #712

The country may be divided. But those divisions are manufactured and exacerbated over the last 4 years by a made-for-TV president. I couldn't help but think, in looking at various TV news channels this past week, that this is all sport. Big numbers on the score board and the play-by-play constantly flashing on the screens. We're the spectators, and the politicians are players on the field. Trump played the field bett…

The guy had armies of white supremacist supporters and advisers. He told right-wing extremists to “stand by” on national TV.

Every time you gloss over this, you give a pass to it and to those who knew about it and supported him anyway.

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Post by jcims »

harimau777 wrote: post #671
ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Is there really any common ground? My experience talking to the other side during this administration is that they are completely unable and often unwilling to consider any argument or information that conflicts with their views. How do you debate with people who don't care about facts or reason? In addition their leadership appears to be completely unwilling to act and good faith and the rank in file appear unwillin…

In most cases you're likely just engaging in rhetorical volleys with the other person.

Until someone trusts you to handle their concerns and vulnerabilities with care, you aren't going to get anywhere.

The relationship is paramount in communication, and it's the one thing that social media (and the pandemic) has most effectively eliminated from our daily lives. In this particular case I think we all need to 'act local and think global'...stop sparring on the Internet and try to make inroads to mutual understanding with those that you can see and hear.

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Post by biscotti »

"Racist" mentioned in this thread dozens of times along with fascists all the usual derogatory buzzwords. Communist and woke both worryingly have less mentions considering the context. Bolshevism suprisingly has got no mentions considering what the YCombinator Alumni Michael Simon tweeted and the platform he set up.

Anywho, I digress. I believe those in here to be intelligent and educated so I would ask you to take your partisan hats off for a minute if you're honest and consider when AZ goes Trump this is the time for you to start freaking out.

The mainstream media has been extremely irresponsible and the forthcoming riots when this is overturned are going to lay squarely on their feet. I would also ask those of you who have a conscience to be less irresponsible than journalists over these coming weeks until December in an attempt to reduce said damage.

I say this because if you think Biden is going to be your president you haven't been watching carefully enough.

Also dang if you will please change the title. Biden hasn't won anything yet - as you know the media doesn't declare winners esp not given their woeful conduct and bogus calls (AZ), states have to certify before a winner is declared. Also please ask PG to be more responsible with his tweets if he will listen. This will reflect badly on all involved.

Thankyou.

Edited to add: I don't see Next Page at the bottom of the pages in this story, I'm not sure if it's bugged...

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Post by lynndotpy »

As a graduate student, Biden's win is personally a huge relief for me and my peers. Most of my fellow grad students are international students, and it was very concerning to have the possibility of another four years of this anti-science, anti-academic, anti-China and generally xenophobic administration.

So, this is received as Very Good News.

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