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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Post by dbrueck »

harimau777 wrote: post #671
ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Is there really any common ground? My experience talking to the other side during this administration is that they are completely unable and often unwilling to consider any argument or information that conflicts with their views. How do you debate with people who don't care about facts or reason? In addition their leadership appears to be completely unwilling to act and good faith and the rank in file appear unwillin…

Yes, there is a ton of common ground with 99% of the people on the "other" side, whichever side that is from you.

If one big problem facing U.S. politics right now is that everything is distilled down to a binary either-or with no room for nuance, its sibling problem is assuming that everyone on the "other side" from you is the same, i.e. that the crazy extremist you see on TV is a prototypical example of everyone in that group. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth.

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Post by programmertote »

ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Since you mentioned about Georgia runoff elections, I'd like to share the link to the Democrats' donation page: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/gasenatebattleground.

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Post by pm90 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #593

One of the things this election, and the last four years, has shown me, is the impact of technology on our political discourse. It hasn't been a "good" insight. Federal Election records indicate that the leadership of technology companies overwhelmingly supported a set of values that their employees appear to just as overwhelmingly reject. That dissonance is really quite remarkable. I see one of the fundamental chall…

I don’t think this is a good argument. Taking actions that influence people is sketchy but legal (eg FB allowing disinformation) but actually turning self driving cars into death machines is just ... not something I see as being possible, and goes into crazy conspiracy zone for me. There are a ton of regulations around the safety of passengers, which are likely to be expanded to include self driving tech as well.

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Post by sg47 »

gigatexal wrote: post #138

What is really keeping me up at night is the existential problem the US faces for the next 50 years: the ever increasingly large divide that is the polarizing of the electorate. We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.

Russia, Facebook and the media have already divided and conquered us. The conquest is over. We are just trying to collect the bits and scraps. The conqueror doesn't have to be another nation. Fox News, CNN, Twitter and Facebook are the countries that have benefited the most.

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Post by djitz »

harimau777 wrote: post #671
ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

Is there really any common ground? My experience talking to the other side during this administration is that they are completely unable and often unwilling to consider any argument or information that conflicts with their views. How do you debate with people who don't care about facts or reason? In addition their leadership appears to be completely unwilling to act and good faith and the rank in file appear unwillin…

This is not exclusive to any one side. That’s the problem with having “sides”.

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Post by artificialLimbs »

ablekh wrote: post #659

OK, so the transition from Make America Great Again slogan to Make America Decent Again (and Better) reality is inevitable and welcome. It is easy to get overjoyed by results of the U.S. Presidential Election (and some celebration certainly is in order). Uniting the country is definitely a commendable goal, though it is easier said than done. The election results across all levels clearly illustrate just how divided…

This site used to not be filled with leftist cheerleaderism, as far as I can remember. Shocking that such a nebulous non comment is at the top.

It's my opinion that freedom should be of primary importance in America, not feel good authoritarian inducing woo.

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Post by sg47 »

charliemil4 wrote: post #217

We should trust but verify the results. The basis of facts should be settled in the following: 1. Select all ballots that were sent to the same address - or sent to the same Post Office (grouping all PO Boxes by post office). ^ Here you are trying to see if there is systemic voting behaviors out of the ordinary -- i.e. did 10+ ballots go to one address. 2. Select all ballots that were sent to an alternate address tha…

Did you ask for this in 2016, 2012 or 2008 too? Just curious. Shouldn't we also make sure that certain Republican voters did not vote in multiple states or counties?

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Post by robertoandred »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #327

Being a centrist, I can definitely understand the desire for more conservative policies, and a rejection of more liberal policies. What has been tough for me personally, though, is to see a person as amoral as Trump get so much support. I DO agree that Trump has done some good things, things that before him neither the left nor the right was willing to do in a substantial way (mainly his forcing a re-evaluation of ou…

The left just made a white straight religious man president.

Those who feel they're being pushed out are actually leaving voluntarily because they don't like that others are being allowed in.

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Post by noobermin »

jebronie wrote: post #261

For me the bottomline of the Trump administration is that he has started zero new wars, sparing hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. As an outsider I hope that the US will not go back to its foreign military interventions.

He did however increase the number of drone strikes and other skirmishes in the middle east and Africa.
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