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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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I'd like to open a slightly different topic here which stems though from the elections of the past 20 years. Wouldn't be a big take away now the reform of the Elector College and the shift to a direct vote from the people ?

As a nonUS citizen from a country in which the head of state is being elected directly from the people, I find it very unsettling that there have been cases in which the president in US elections was running behind in popular votes and by a big amount of votes, which almost happened here. I've tried to research it a bit but I couldn't still understand why especially since the House and Senate members are elected by popular vote already

I'd appreciate any insights here

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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What is really keeping me up at night is the existential problem the US faces for the next 50 years: the ever increasingly large divide that is the polarizing of the electorate. We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.

> We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.

I feel like we're likely already in the middle of a divide and conquer situation.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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I've always felt that the Trump presidency served as an effective form of "Chaos Engineering". Regardless of your views of Trump's politics, his administration and method of leadership has exposed a lot of flaws in how our government has been designed and engineered. The postmortem of the last 4 years should be analyzed deeply in order to identify the weak points in the infrastructure of our government in order to ma…

That's just your viewpoint. Many on the right saw the Obama years as chaotic and flawed, acquiescing to foreign powers, allowing immigration that lead to terror attacks, etc.

One thing we can "post mortem" about this election is that people on the left such as yourself are not able to conceptualize other viewpoints. Other political viewpoints you describe as chaos and flawed and you want to "engineer" the goverment to prevent other viewpoints, and thus other political parties.

Another thing on the left is that censorship has been fully embraced by the left in a dishonest way. While its true people are banned for violating communtiy guidelines, there is also weasel censorship such as hiding comments under the guise they might offend so that if users want to see alternative viewpoints they have to click 'show more comments'. Deplatforming and shadow banning non-leftist ideas has also taken root.

Both of these things eagerly adopted and used in this campaign cycle are Unamerican and dangerous. Your road to good intentions clearly leads to hell, and you are unable to recognize it.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Biden has vowed to a group of his donor that, if he is elected, "Nothing would fundamentally change": https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-no... so the title should be amended to: "Biden wins White House, effectively vowing no new direction for US".

So tired of calls to action from everyone related to pulling sentence fragments out of speeches from group figureheads and building a whole narrative around what it could have meant since what was said isn't "shocking" enough in context. Always 3rd (or worse) level references because the source material wasn't clickbaity enough. Often shared with comments like "not sure if this is true but it really makes you think" or other ways of feigning ignorance about what was just said while still saying it.

Isn't there anything good being done by any leaders worth sharing instead of how one found a year old article or tweet that they managed to turn into a "hot take" comment? Or progress on actual efforts instead? Is this thought the real silent majority or is all anyone's ever interesting in shitting on whatever says?

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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While it’s true that the US government needs structural reform, the issue wasn’t anything the Constitution can fix by nibbling around the edges. The issue is that the unified Republican elite, along with > 35% of the electorate, is fundamentally lawless and anti-democratic, and will do anything it can to cheat its way into power. All three branches are implicated and have been for a while: Bush v Gore in 2000, the US…

Nihilism is the truth of the world. Everyone is deluding themselves otherwise. Nearly everyone with significant power is nihilistic. Without god (and even if there was a god) there are no morals. All we have is genetics. Morals are just bias.

Using nihilism as a negative descriptor is funny when nihilism as a philosophy isn't against or for anything.

Reality is of course uncomfortable for most people which is why I'm getting downvoted :)

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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Is this good or bad for the stock market? Or does it not matter at all?

Of course it matters: If there is an income tax increase, if COVID lockdowns are renewed or imposed on a more federal level, if the US ceases to be a net exporter of oil, if the tariffs with China are suspended, they will go down.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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We should trust but verify the results. The basis of facts should be settled in the following: 1. Select all ballots that were sent to the same address - or sent to the same Post Office (grouping all PO Boxes by post office). ^ Here you are trying to see if there is systemic voting behaviors out of the ordinary -- i.e. did 10+ ballots go to one address. 2. Select all ballots that were sent to an alternate address tha…

There's no way to have a safe voting system without trust in the government and how states operate. There's just no way that, as a citizen, you can verify your vote. It's all in sybil attacks: how do you identify one person in the first place? You need strong cryptography tied to each citizen, and you need to trust the government that they are not creating fictive citizens.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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It's amazing. My friends on the left think the only reason for voting trump is racism, and friends on the right think the only reason for voting biden is socialism. Where did all the intellect go? The social dilemma documentary I think is very useful. It feels like social media bubbles are a large component, although of course there have been many contentious elections in the past. Being centrist I can relate to part…

Any nuance is met with vitriol.

Explaining why taxes, redistribution of wealth, and allowing government to oversee certain services is actually beneficial to a market is a sure fire way to get called out as a communist and radical leftist.

Pointing out why historically, conservatives were deadset against abortion —in order to have a more productive discussion using pure history, not Bannon-style nonsense—is met with a absolute refusal to acknowledge the evidence.

Having a nuanced view makes no friends and just generates suspicion by all sides.

Secretly, I like it.

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