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Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
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#122How does this election relate to the 2000 election when all media called Gore the winner, but then in December, Bush became the president elect? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2020/11/04/the... "On election night, it was unclear who had won, with the electoral votes of the state of Florida still undecided. The returns showed that Bush had won Florida by such a close margin that state law required a rec…
Look at it logically. Bush was ahead by 537 votes. The court wrangling happened for so long and there were so many delays that it was impossible to do a recount in time for the legally mandated date of certification.
Biden is ahead here. Even if you remove PA or AZ, he'd still have enough electoral votes to win.
He's going to be President. The only person who doesn't get that at this point is Trump, and everyone around him is just bowing to his whims.
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#123On the data nerd side I continue to be shocked at how people misinterpret the certainty of polls/forecasts. Forecasts give us probability distributions based on historical polling error data. Not infallible predictions the expected value will 100% happen. It’s fairly revealing of society’s general innumeracy, just as it was 4 years ago when Trump won.
But the polls then and now weren’t just bad, they were shockingly bad and not representative of any real population that matters in an election. I’d expect something like this from junior engineers looking at metrics for the first time, but these are supposedly the most respective organizations in their field that have failed spectacularly for the second presidential election in a row. What value do they possibly serve?
Should Biden ultimately be declared the victor, I’m concerned that the public will never receive the postmortem on what went wrong and how it happened again that it deserves.
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#124Can we have a conversation about broader implications of the increasing power in the public discourse of Twitter et al.? I’m no Trump supporter but I do wonder if the tables were turned and Twitter e.g. turned Biden’s page into a wall of hidden tweets because of something it disagreed with (there are enough grievances with Big Tech from both sides).
Do people think this is isolated (because Trump is, well, Trump) or there’s a broader tendency here?
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#125Completely independently of who won/will win this election, I find it massively irresponsible that media outlets are calling it before actual states are. The media should report the news, not make it.
The media calling the election has no legal force. In principle, they look at the results and call the election once they think it's highly unlikely that a particular candidate can lose. Sometimes that call is badly made, like Florida 2000 or, IMO, Fox calling Arizona prematurely. But it's misinforming viewers to claim that all candidates still have a chance after some point in time.
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#126Does anyone feel strange about a 77 year old man being put under this much stress?
Politics aside, I would not wish a stressful job on any 77 year old regardless of their health and well being - there are biological realities to being a human.
I don't know what motivates these decisions but it seems to me the people of his own party either don't care that there is a non-trivial chance he will die, or they think the glory of being president, even if compromised is worth dying for, or something else.
All of the reasons I can come up with strike me as misguided - 'president' is not a mountain peak you reach with your dying breath, it is supposed to be a difficult job of serving others.
If someone has a take on what his party/he is thinking that's other than 'winning is all that matters', I'd really like to know.
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#127Interesting fact I noticed: If Biden is to take the presidency after the Electoral Collage voted that would make him the oldest president to take office yet, also interesting that wikipedia already marked Biden as president-elect [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_Unit...
It would also make him the only person from the Silent Generation [0] to ever be elected President of the United States. As Biden is at the very youngest end of the generation, he will likely remain the only one.
[0] Using the Strauss-Howe definitions of generations https://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/the-generational-con...
Edit: Silents were born 1925-1942. Just thought I should mention it here so you don't have to click the link. Biden was born in November 1942, so he's just before the cutoff.
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#128Democrats want to subjugate. The anti-globalist portion of the Republican party (the one that elected Trump) just wants to get the hell away and have their own country.
Split the country apart - let the coasts go, we will have the middle, let them have a northern corridor. It's time to break up, we want nothing to do with you. This is not a debate - we want to leave. My grandfather, and many other GIs would have dropped their firearms on the spot if they knew what the country would become today.
The real enemy has always been the globalists.
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#129The media was way too cautious in making the call here, but it's easy to understand why when the Republicans made it so difficult to count absentee ballots before election night, likely to benefit their candidate through the confusion of swinging red and then blue. If you don't want this to happen again, pressure your red representatives to stop demonizing mail-in/advance voting, and stop destroying the postal system…
And stop closing polling places in urban (Black) neighborhoods, etc, etc
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#130On the data nerd side I continue to be shocked at how people misinterpret the certainty of polls/forecasts. Forecasts give us probability distributions based on historical polling error data. Not infallible predictions the expected value will 100% happen. It’s fairly revealing of society’s general innumeracy, just as it was 4 years ago when Trump won.
Couldn't the problem be that polling is just numeromancy dressed up in fancy math?