US Government Continues Encryption War
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US Government Continues Encryption War
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#2Perhaps we're using the wrong metaphor - lock your doors. Congress wants to ban door locks to your home, your car, your gun safe?
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#3> Nor are we necessarily talking about the customized encryption used by large business enterprises to protect their operations. We are talking about consumer products and services such as messaging, smart phones, email, and voice and data applications.
I am very confused by this statement from Barr.
Protecting consumer data is protecting a business' operations.
If user data is properly encrypted, then a dataleak is necessarily less of a liability. You cannot lose what you do not have access to. Protecting the customer, protects the business.
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#4> “warrant-proof” encryption
Like “warrant-proof” rooms and houses that, even with a valid warrant, won't record conversations and send them to the police.
And just like encryption, those “warrant-proof” protections can be circumvented by planting physical or software bugs on target houses or computers.
They're not complaining that law enforcement can't subvert privacy protections - they're complaining that they're not already subverted, ahead of time, for everyone.
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#5> “warrant-proof” encryption Like “warrant-proof” rooms and houses that, even with a valid warrant, won't record conversations and send them to the police. And just like encryption, those “warrant-proof” protections can be circumvented by planting physical or software bugs on target houses or computers. They're not complaining that law enforcement can't subvert privacy protections - they're complaining that they're n…
After we get rid of warrant-proof window shades, we'll get to the real problem. We all know what it is: Thought Crime.
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#6> Nor are we necessarily talking about the customized encryption used by large business enterprises to protect their operations. We are talking about consumer products and services such as messaging, smart phones, email, and voice and data applications. I am very confused by this statement from Barr. Protecting consumer data is protecting a business' operations. If user data is properly encrypted, then a dataleak is…
Don't worry big business we don't mind you guys keeps your secrets secret. It's the plebs that the fourth amendment shouldnt apply to.
Their wet dream is the current state of affairs on the fourth amendment. Even though all of our communications are are captured on some servers in Utah, it's not a search and seizure unless we "look at the communcation". Wink wink
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#7> Nor are we necessarily talking about the customized encryption used by large business enterprises to protect their operations. We are talking about consumer products and services such as messaging, smart phones, email, and voice and data applications. I am very confused by this statement from Barr. Protecting consumer data is protecting a business' operations. If user data is properly encrypted, then a dataleak is…
> Protecting consumer data is protecting a business' operations.
Not really.
The article was trying to create a distinction between internal business uses and consumer Internet use. An example might be branch-branch bank communications. You could probably argue either way about whether that is more valuable or not than tweets.
You're only viewing it from an end-user Internet privacy viewpoint. Using SSL on HN is not in the same league as banking.
For younger HN readers who weren't around during the PGP war in the 80's/90's, it's expected that governments will keep reviving bills like this until they win, so eternal vigilance is needed. Also, LEO will always push for the laziest method of getting their job done, hence stingers and cell phone tower dumps.
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#8I wonder if they've done any polling to figure out the level of surveillance they can impose without triggering a brain drain.
I expect there is a phase-change somewhere before "all my communications are monitored in real time".
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#9The right to bear arms should cover encryption.
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#10> “warrant-proof” encryption Like “warrant-proof” rooms and houses that, even with a valid warrant, won't record conversations and send them to the police. And just like encryption, those “warrant-proof” protections can be circumvented by planting physical or software bugs on target houses or computers. They're not complaining that law enforcement can't subvert privacy protections - they're complaining that they're n…
After we get rid of warrant-proof window shades, we'll get to the real problem. We all know what it is: Thought Crime.
>...We all know what it is: Thought Crime...
>Scotland’s proposed hate crime bill will penalise anyone whipping up hatred against “protected groups.” That includes people making “insulting” remarks within their own home, Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf has revealed.
[Many other sources are available, if RT's line is not to your liking]