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Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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I have heard Musk say that he is deeply involved in engineering. Makes me suspect he might be micromanaging. Or is what he does different?

I am sure he does. But he isn't a micromanager. He will do whatever it takes to get things done and done right. Same with Steve Jobs. If you can get it done and done right, you wouldn't hear a peep.

No one at that level has issues with delegation either. It's far too much work and too many people. So what they activily manage are results. And because results involve people, you can get yourself steamrolled if you're in their way.

The way Elon gets his hands dirty in so many parts of the business attest to this. A micromanager would manage everything all the time. Elon simply goes from one hot spot to another with uncompromising focus on detail.

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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Different situations call for different levels of intervention. Sometimes, a manager may be very involved in some specific artifact which may 'seem' like micromanaging but really it's 'topical' management. Often Micromanaging isn't actually inherently 'wrong' or even bad, rather, it's the emotional corrosiveness that is the problem, i.e. people just don't like to be managed in that way, but, if we were all 'perfectly…

What would be a situation where its appropriate? Either you hired someone whose competent so you should let them do their job, or they're incompetent and you should fire them and hire someone else.

First - different perspectives (i.e. bigger vs. narrow picture), Second - skills and competencies gaps.

First 'Special Conditions' - The gap between 'customer' and 'engineer' can often be quite large. Junior Engineers especially generally don't have an intuition for those things, and often 'the technical details' deal directly with feature orientation. There are legal issues, operational issues, so many 'bigger picture' things that are relevant. Cross-functional issues are definitely a thing, which is why a guy like Musk is probably managing a few layers deep, and 'very deep' in some specific scenarios.

Musk is a good example - because when he intervenes, because he has 'a lot of legitimacy' as 'founder and supposed genius' - people may not feel 'micromanaged' whereas if it were any other situation they very well might.

You may have a very complex code base where the architects, or Senior Devs who built the system need to intervene with a bunch of things to ensure consistency, communicate much of the 'unspoken' idioms that exist, and provide 'leadership by example' etc. etc..

For example, I trust my team members a lot more in the Java/Python domain, I almost don't trust anyone in C++ there are just so many ways to skin the cat, so many horrible anti-patterns, I've seen it all, so I like to take a really good look at the code. Often a second set of eyes helps.

On the whole, yes, micromanaging probably shouldn't be constant, but it can be consistent.

Second - there are skills (and communications) gaps in every resume. I'm literally managing a small offshore team right now, not getting adequate response when asking some specific questions. I've come to the conclusion they are literally not considering a whole pile of corner cases. I'm going to have to step in and hold their hands through a set of functions that they, for whatever reason, are not wading through very well. Fortunately, I have a ton of experience with this, and it will be ok.

This idea of 'if they are not good enough use someone else' is a little bit glib because far more often than not, it's not an option - either you have an incumbent team, budgetary/timing issues, and frankly, even if you didn't have limitations there, it's hard to evaluate people anyhow.

Finally - I will say that there are some situations where micromanaging probably is going to be constant. For very young and new developers on any kind of complex system ... they will need to have a lot of coaching and oversight. Even little things like tooling usage, which may not be 'formalized' because the team is in good sync, or the team is senior, but you have a junior who's not familiar with the git idioms on the team etc...

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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> Micromanagement, when used in the context of a business, is a situation in which managers (or anyone responsible for leading other people) are overly controlling of work or processes.

The key word in that definition is "overly" and the measure of over, under, or just right amount of control is the person being managed -- what works or doesn't work for that person.

None of the behaviors the article listed are good, bad, right, or wrong in the abstract. If the person responds positively to very firm management and asks for it, it's not micromanaging. For another person, very light management may be too much.

How do you find the optimal amount? Partly by asking, partly by observing, partly by experiment.

Bottom line: management (and leadership) is a human-human interaction. What works is based on the person you intend to manage (or lead).

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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I had a gig with a company that could only retain very junior developers. I was very nervous going in, because only retaining junior developers implies that the management can't get along with experienced developers.

I couldn't quite "put a finger" on why I wasn't happy and had trouble getting along with the management and tech lead... And, why the tech lead was always frustrated with the manager.

It's because they were all micromanaging each other!

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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Excellent; thanks for sharing. If there were a convenient way to anonymously share links, this could be a game-changer for a lot of people.

If you are referring to a situation that you're in, you should consider sharing this with your manager. If you are worried that something bad will come from it, then it might be a sign that it's time to get away from that job.

Thanks -- but no, for me personally it couldn't be farrher from the case. Meant broadly / generically, bc IME there's so much of this -- and IMHO it's often perpetrated unknowingly. A convenient mechanism to shed light could end a lot of misery.

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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I don't see one of the most important parts of how to stop micromanaging, which is to help your team grow . I don't mean add more people, I mean to grow the skills and competencies of the people already on it. I've noticed that often people micromanage because they don't trust their team, but it's not necessarily because the manager is a dumb narcissist who vetoes their team's brilliant ideas as some of these article…

> I've noticed that often people micromanage because they don't trust their team There's also some tasks that just shouldn't ever be done by one person. E.g. naming features and global classes and functions. There isn't any way to know if a name is intuitive to everyone else unless you actually ask everyone else. Although this the canonical example of bike shedding, I've never once had a discussion about what a bunch…

Yeah it is a bit funny that naming is the go to bikeshedding example because in my experience poor terminology surrounding a project can be hugely detrimental (e.g. names that have nothing to do with what is actually happening) and vice versa.

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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What can make this hard is wearing multiple hats. Your boss might be micromanaging, but not with the boss hat, but a senior engineer hat, or an architect or product owner hat. I have considered introducing a convention where people declare what hat they are wearing first! Also if the manager is also the expert in the technical area this can have the same effect. This often happens in small companies where the manager…

There’s a joke I make with colleagues for a fantasy startup we’d call Micromanagr. The pitch “The problem with micromanagement is it doesn’t scale... until now”

Jokes aside micro-management has its roots in insecurity and lack of being able trust. Perhaps for a small number it’s also about a power trip but for most it’s simply a lack of understanding of how to delegate and a false belief that you’re the only person that “gets it”.

That said one of the greatest feelings a manager is seeing people step up, take things on and do it in a newer and better way. You have to allow them to make mistakes which they will at first. But when you can get to this with a whole team, you end up doing things collectively which are truly bigger than the sum of the parts, and that’s an amazing thing to be part of.

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be a situation where its appropriate? Either you hired someone whose competent so you should let them do their job, or they're incompetent and you should fire them and hire someone else.

First - different perspectives (i.e. bigger vs. narrow picture), Second - skills and competencies gaps. First 'Special Conditions' - The gap between 'customer' and 'engineer' can often be quite large. Junior Engineers especially generally don't have an intuition for those things, and often 'the technical details' deal directly with feature orientation. There are legal issues, operational issues, so many 'bigger pictu…

I think some of what you describe, i would consider to be "mentoring" not "micromanaging". I at least view those differently, but i can see how they can look similar in a lot of ways.

Re: Signs you might be a micromanager

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The common pattern of behavior I have observed with micro managers is a fear of perception, such as a fear of looking bad. Most commonly this manifests as the boss wanting a hyper selective output they wish they could do themselves because either they do not trust the employee and/or because they cannot communicate what they want.

Contrast that against excellent managers who provide proper direction and allow their employees to safely fail for growth because you learn more from failure.

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