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Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by ptato »

pents90 wrote: post #64
jlelse wrote: post #21

I recently switched from IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate to VS Code for Go development (side project), because I don't want to pay for it, when I'm no longer a student. With Golang VS Code works great after getting used to it. The Go plugin is not available for the community edition. For Java and Android development I always used (and still use) IDEA because it's feels much better than Eclipse.

If you plan to be a professional software engineer, then I recommend just paying for the best tools. The price of one hour of an engineer's salary (give or take) can pay for the entire IntelliJ suite for a year.

give or take 14 hours for me!

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by CountSessine »

theCodeStig wrote: post #83
city41 wrote: post #3

I switched from vim to Webstorm, which is based on IntelliJ. I agree with most of this article. IdeaVim is a pretty good vim emulator (although not perfect, but none of them are). There's something to be said by having sane defaults that do exactly what you want. Probably my biggest issue with vim is you can easily find yourself in no man's land because your setup inevitably becomes uniquely your own. For example I u…

Emacs Evil mode is the exception here. It’s possibly better than Vim itself.

Is it possible to do inoremap jk yet in Evil? That's a huge optimization for a really large minority of Vim users and without that, Evil definitely isn't Vim's equal.

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by b0afc375b5 »

adimitrov wrote: post #99
scruple wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing statements like this and I want to believe. I really, really do. I see the value in Emacs Lisp vs. vimscript immediately, though I feel that Lua in neovim is making up ground there. I've tried evil-mode a few times over the years. Most recently I tried Doom Emacs twice. I _really_ want to experience the hype of org-mode. I want something like org-mode in my life. I am a heavy notes taker and I can see…

I started using Vim in mid/late 2000s, and successfully switched to Emacs. Without knowing your specific gripes, it's hard no know what'll end up helping you, but here are my two cents: - use emacsclient and have aliases for emacsclient -c and and emacsclient -n for popping up a new frame or using the console, respectively. I even have a window manager binding to open a new Emacs client window - Rainer König is the b…

I absolutely love magit. I tried using to emacs as my main development tool but couldn't be bothered to learn a proper workflow yet. I also tried learning org mode but I have no use case for it yet. But magit is just the best frontend for git.

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by jlelse »

pents90 wrote: post #64
jlelse wrote: post #21

I recently switched from IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate to VS Code for Go development (side project), because I don't want to pay for it, when I'm no longer a student. With Golang VS Code works great after getting used to it. The Go plugin is not available for the community edition. For Java and Android development I always used (and still use) IDEA because it's feels much better than Eclipse.

If you plan to be a professional software engineer, then I recommend just paying for the best tools. The price of one hour of an engineer's salary (give or take) can pay for the entire IntelliJ suite for a year.

For work I currently have to use an old Eclipse version in a slow virtual desktop infrastructure. But yeah I know it's worth paying for good tools.

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by srcreigh »

CountSessine wrote: post #143
theCodeStig wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs Evil mode is the exception here. It’s possibly better than Vim itself.

Is it possible to do inoremap jk yet in Evil? That's a huge optimization for a really large minority of Vim users and without that, Evil definitely isn't Vim's equal.

Key chord is a nice package for vanilla Emacs at least https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/KeyChord

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by mssdvd »

theCodeStig wrote: post #83
city41 wrote: post #3

I switched from vim to Webstorm, which is based on IntelliJ. I agree with most of this article. IdeaVim is a pretty good vim emulator (although not perfect, but none of them are). There's something to be said by having sane defaults that do exactly what you want. Probably my biggest issue with vim is you can easily find yourself in no man's land because your setup inevitably becomes uniquely your own. For example I u…

Emacs Evil mode is the exception here. It’s possibly better than Vim itself.

Can you explain why do you think Evil is so good? I'm an Evil user too and I'm happy with it but I fail to see why it is better than many vi clones.

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by mdaniel »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #86
sippeangelo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sheesh, I wish I was worth $500/hr. I guess I'm not professional enough.

IntelliJ is $149 for a personal license.

And they allow one to use the personal license at work, so long as no one at home is simultaneously using that license (I'm paraphrasing, and also cognizant that "at work" and "at home" now mean something radically different than this time last year) : https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240855-Can-... (going up one level has all kind of interesting other licensing FAQs)

I actually still do that even though work bought me an IJ license because my personal _suite_ license covers more tools

Re: Switching from Vim to Intellij

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Post by daotoad »

mmm_grayons wrote: post #101
cpow85 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, The point was about configuration. I had a configuration that worked for a couple years, then I start a new job and the config breaks on the first 50+ line TSX file. Now I have to go and find the culprit, find a replacement plugin (in this case, yajs JS parser was slowing things down). and before I knew it, I was re-configuring everything again. I was more criticizing the ecosystem of plugins and how brittle s…

That's definitely a huge issue. I've had the same experience of having to spend hours to a day getting my configuration set up for a new language. I think part of the problem is that there's no basic config for a language (as with other editors) from which users can tweak, mostly because anyone who tried to get vim users to standardize on any defaults other than those shipping with vim itself would be strung up and h…

I was using ALE for autocompletion and such, but having switched to COC, I find its support for TypeScript to be far superior.

This is relevant because COC is basically a system for talking to language servers.

https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim

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