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San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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Why doesn’t anyone want to address the elephant in the room, which is affordable housing? Why not convert vacant offices to apartments?

Why not loosen building restrictions and allow to build new and high outside of a narrow downtown area? Why not loosen restrictions to build smaller, tenement-style units of there is demand?

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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> hopes the tax will drive companies to reexamine their compensation structures Outsource the lowest paid workers to a subcontractor to raise your average employee wage. I’m not sure that has a desirable effect, but it seems this law certainly financially encourages that.

It will do more to force them to reconsider where they domicile their businesses than it will force them to reconsider their comp structures.

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely, this will just result in businesses continuing to leave San Francisco. The pandemic has given most companies a good reason to do so already and my bet is on most of them not returning to their overpriced San Francisco headquarters when this is eventually over.

Or just move it to a smaller office somewhere else in the Bay Area.

It’s hard to determine what’ll happen due to pandemic + remote work, but historically nearby counties with lower taxes have always been the biggest risk for high tax municipalities. Think less “I’m leaving NYC to go to Michigan” and more “I’ll move to New Jersey and commute into NYC”.

But again, the pandemic and rise of remote work makes this hard to predict.

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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post #11

Why doesn’t anyone want to address the elephant in the room, which is affordable housing? Why not convert vacant offices to apartments?

If offices become vacant, what is the motivation to live in the city anyway?

Plenty of people commute in to work in non-tech jobs. Some of those folks would love to live in SF if rent was cheaper.

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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Does anyone have the text of the law, or a detailed description of it? > Under a newly approved law, any company whose top executive earns 100 times more than its average worker will pay an extra 0.1% surcharge on its annual business-tax payment. If a CEO makes 200 times more than the average employee, the surcharge increases to 0.2%, and so on per multiple of 100. What do they mean by "earns," are bonuses included?…

> I'm sure folks will try to game this to get around it, I'm just curious how Lay off everyone making less than 200x the top earner. Move to remote workers where possible, outside contractors where not.

Fire low paid workers such as support staff and outsource that to staffing agencies. That’s the easiest way to game this number.

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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This design seems really odd. Why target business and CEOs in particular? Why not just have a straightforward high progressive tax? It also seems like it will reward the practice of outsourcing lower-paid job functions, or discourage employers from hiring lower-paid workers generally. The whole thing seems designed as a punitive measure, without really thinking about what incentives it creates.

Re: San Francisco voters approve taxes on highly paid CEOs, big businesses

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post #28

This design seems really odd. Why target business and CEOs in particular? Why not just have a straightforward high progressive tax? It also seems like it will reward the practice of outsourcing lower-paid job functions, or discourage employers from hiring lower-paid workers generally. The whole thing seems designed as a punitive measure, without really thinking about what incentives it creates.

You do not want to hurt politician revenues.
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