12 hours later I think I have everything working as I intend . . though my productivity is still taking a hit trying to find various things.
Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
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Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a wildly varying experience that depends on your hardware and the distro. What I've noticed with Ubuntu, though is that hardware support keeps getting better with each new version. Before I buy any new piece of hardware, I check for Ubuntu support.
I haven't had any problems with suspend/resume on Apple hardware with Ubuntu in the last three years or so
the same here. only battery life isn't as great as under os x.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#203So, I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 - but I use awesome-wm instead of gnome. Is it worth to upgrade to 11? After reading the comments here it seems like the big thing about 11.04 was the new gnome shell.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#204I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.
It isn't that sleep works reliable on OSX, it's that sleep works reliably on a Mac . You see, when you buy a Mac you know every feature (including sleep) has been tested thoroughly. When you decide to install an OS on a computer you already own, you put the onus to test on yourself . I don't understand why people continue to make this unfair comparison. If you want a linux computer where sleep just works, by a preins…
Even dedicated Ubuntu system providers like System76 run into hardware problems.
Ubuntu 10.04 removed (previously working) support for System76 Starling Netbook wireless cards. It was several months before they had a workaround, allowing their customers to finally upgrade to 10.04 just in time for 10.10. System76 then said they felt 10.10 was not ready for their Netbooks, and said their users should remain on 10.04 until further notice. That post was stickied until yesterday.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#205I'm not going back to linux on the desktop until it can sleep my laptop reliably. OSX is so nice for that. Just close the lid and go... I can't imagine working any other way now.
That's how it works on my laptop... (running Narwal).
There is apparently a lot of hate among the downvoters today. Disagreeing with a pro-OSX comment is death here.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#206As I use my Ubuntu desktop to actually get work done, I'm quite terrified about installing this release. I'm not sure I'll upgrade for a while yet, I want to find out what the general consensus is first.
This sounds like you do not have a working backup plan. Instead of installing the new Ubuntu, make sure you have a backup plan, test it and automate it to secure you against a random massive computer failure that would make you unable to get work done.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been able to sleep my laptop (mostly) reliably since 2006. It all depends on what hardware you have. The "mostly" is because in 2007, ATi released an update to their catalyst binary blob driver that broke sleep and hibernation. I try to steer clear of non-open source drivers now.
Arrandale chipsets (Core i5 and i7) have suspend resume issues with the intel graphics chipset. This affects systems like Dell Latitude. ( https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=28739 ) The fix is available in kernel 2.6.38 ( Ubuntu 11.04 is 2.6.37) I run Ubuntu 10.10 with a PPA 2.6.38 kernel to get around the problem. Please note this problem is at the kernel level - going Fedora will not help. Ubuntu is more…
11.04 is using 2.6.38
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#208I've had it installed on my main machine since late December. There were some rough patches as things were landing during the beta period, but right now this is easily the best desktop I've ever used. My workflow adapted to some of the additions in Unity so quickly that it was absurd. At this point I could never go back to something without Super+#, Super+w, Super+s and the other keybindings found here: http://askubu…
Soooooo cool that they realized that every keyboard has a windows key!!! Instead of adapting the ms shortcuts, they find different shortcuts which do the same, how great is that?!
Implying a keyboard shortcut is not customizable...
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arrandale chipsets (Core i5 and i7) have suspend resume issues with the intel graphics chipset. This affects systems like Dell Latitude. ( https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=28739 ) The fix is available in kernel 2.6.38 ( Ubuntu 11.04 is 2.6.37) I run Ubuntu 10.10 with a PPA 2.6.38 kernel to get around the problem. Please note this problem is at the kernel level - going Fedora will not help. Ubuntu is more…
11.04 is using 2.6.38
true - my mistake.
Although you should also know that 2.6.38 and 11.04 has a mysterious power management bug that increases laptop battery usage significantly.
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?48656-Mobile-Users...
All said and done, IMHO it's not worth upgrading to 11.04 right now.
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use a macbook pro and it truly is a better laptop than anything else, but if you're looking at a desktop then the argument becomes a lot murkier if you're not doing iOS development. If cost is an issue, I'd build a windows desktop from parts that are OSx86 (Hackintosh) compliant so if you need the osx experience you can get it. That gives you the best of most worlds' I'd say without having to pay the mac premium -…
Why wouldn't a Mac workstation not be worth it? My iMac 27" is worth every penny for the huge hi-res IPC screen alone.
It's not that it's not worth it, it's more if he's constrained by price he could get a perfectly functional self-built pc for a fraction of the price of a mac.