Open source is free to do what you will, but how many PR's does AWS send back to origin?
I don't know about Rabbit MQ, but for redis AWS sends back a lot, so much that one of their developers is now a core team member
Amazon Launches New RabbitMQ Message Broker Service
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#12From the FAANG, Amazon strikes me as the one using most open source code while at the same time not having much to show as open source - firecracker is a (relative) toy.
They must be laughing their sock off at the tops of FAANG: thousands upon thousands commit millions of hours to open source which they then run for a nice profit.
This is because reliability, ease of setup, and support are actually just as important as what is being run.
If you're not using AWS you're not fully leveraging your software team, because that means you've got people spending time building and supporting these sorts of internal systems. That should only be done when you reach large scale, at which point people have leveraged other AWS synergies making it harder to exit the platform.
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#13From the FAANG, Amazon strikes me as the one using most open source code while at the same time not having much to show as open source - firecracker is a (relative) toy.
I'm curious why you'd characterize firecracker as a toy?
It’s (literally) Google’s crosvm with some changes. AWS forked an existing codebase, made some changes that mostly consisted of removing functionality to tailor the VMM for their use case, and then made a big PR push about “open sourcing” Firecracker as though it was a project they built from scratch. The announcement devoted 1 sentence to the fact that it’s a crosvm fork, and that’s not even the only thing covered in that one sentence.
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/firecracker-lightweight-vir...
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#14Another bold innovative move from AWS.
To be honest, charging for things that other people have created and released for free _is_ pretty bold! ha
Is it bold? If a group of people put something together and release the details for free, they have to expect others will profit off of it. This is the fate of all useful open source software that doesn't have some kind of no-commercial clause (which potentially moves it outside the ideals of open source as it restricts the use of the source code).
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
They must be laughing their sock off at the tops of FAANG: thousands upon thousands commit millions of hours to open source which they then run for a nice profit.
This is because reliability, ease of setup, and support are actually just as important as what is being run. If you're not using AWS you're not fully leveraging your software team, because that means you've got people spending time building and supporting these sorts of internal systems. That should only be done when you reach large scale, at which point people have leveraged other AWS synergies making it harder to e…
>That should only be done when you reach large scale, at which point people have leveraged other AWS synergies making it harder to exit the platform.
And then you're bleeding money!
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#16Will it force RabbitMQ to also change its open source license model like Redis ?
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#17I know a lot of HNers believe that AWS just consumes OSS and doesn't contribute back, I just wanted to share what AWS has to say about it- https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/setting-the-record-s...
I am in no way defending or attacking anyone,I just want to provide a data point.
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#18Cloud computing seems to be a winner take all scenario. For example, if you use AWS and need a message broker service then you'll use this. If you use Azure, you'll use their version. Development seems like just hooking up this components. I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
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#19Cloud computing seems to be a winner take all scenario. For example, if you use AWS and need a message broker service then you'll use this. If you use Azure, you'll use their version. Development seems like just hooking up this components. I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
good - my job is really easy
bad - my job is really boring
Re: Amazon Launches New RabbitMQ Message Broker Service
#20Cloud computing seems to be a winner take all scenario. For example, if you use AWS and need a message broker service then you'll use this. If you use Azure, you'll use their version. Development seems like just hooking up this components. I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
good - my job is really easy bad - my job is really boring
Somehow I don't think physical laborers ever complain when they get new and more powerful tools to make their job easier.
It's only software engineers that bemoan their lives getting easier, so they can spend more time working on other problems higher up the abstraction chain.