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Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#11

Post by huhtenberg » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

> for elite professionals

This is not a beginning of a beautiful friendship.

It's like saying "we are an X for really good people only", which leaves one to decide if they are brazen enough to consider themselves really good and try this wonder X or just accept the reality of being somewhat OK and move on.

Perhaps you are trying to be selective with whom you want to accept as clients and this is meant to be a filter, but it comes across as snobbish at best. There are other ways to phrase it without rubbing unwashed gray masses the wrong way.

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#12

Post by kareemm » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:44 PM UTC

The potentially killer features for me are:

1. Pulling in tasks from multiple sources. Clubhouse and Things are the ones I use, sadly not supported.

2. Sharing tasks with teammates / seeing what they're up to regardless of the to-do tool they use. This is huge - always wondered why there was no team todo tracker that respected the idea that tasks are tracked in different tools but cross-departmental collaboration is necessary. For example dev work might happen in GitHub and marketing work in Basecamp. Marketing depends on dev but without a higher-level tool pulling in todos from both it's opaque to understand what other teams are working on.

There's a lot of other stuff going on and Sunsama is a pretty opinionated tool (Channels? Estimated/actual time tracking?)

On first blush comparisons to Superhuman are premature...

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#13

Post by stillmotion » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:48 PM UTC

priyadarshy wrote: post #10

stillmotion wrote: post #7

So strange that your survey basically tells me I'm not a good fit if I'm not willing to consider paying for your product after a 14 day trial. How about let me try the product first and then I can make that assessment?

Thanks for that feedback. We put that in place so that folks weren't surprised after using it that Sunsama doesn't have a free tier since people assume that all productivity tools have a free version. If you just change your answer, you can proceed!

Yes, but the sale shouldn't end because I just said no. There should be room left for me to be delighted by the product, such that I convert into a paying user. Instead, I feel alienated and not at all interested in trying it in the future.

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#14

Post by priyadarshy » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

kareemm wrote: post #12

The potentially killer features for me are: 1. Pulling in tasks from multiple sources. Clubhouse and Things are the ones I use, sadly not supported. 2. Sharing tasks with teammates / seeing what they're up to regardless of the to-do tool they use. This is huge - always wondered why there was no team todo tracker that respected the idea that tasks are tracked in different tools but cross-departmental collaboration is…

1. One of our challenges will be to quickly add robust integrations with lots of other tools. Clubhouse is already a highly requested tool. 2. Yes, we think this the direction the world is moving is one where task tools specialize by role, if that isn't already the case.

And yes, the daily planning workflow is definitely opinionated, I can't disagree!

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#15

Post by gazelle21 » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

Onboarding was deff rough but just signed up, will test and see how it goes! Is there anyway we could add subtask to the regular task?

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#16

Post by czbond » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #11

> for elite professionals This is not a beginning of a beautiful friendship. It's like saying "we are an X for really good people only", which leaves one to decide if they are brazen enough to consider themselves really good and try this wonder X or just accept the reality of being somewhat OK and move on. Perhaps you are trying to be selective with whom you want to accept as clients and this is meant to be a filter,…

You're either really good, or have aspiration to be that much better - right?

Those who don't meet one of those criteria probably won't pay for a planner. But I agree the phrasing is odd.

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#17

Post by priyadarshy » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #11

> for elite professionals This is not a beginning of a beautiful friendship. It's like saying "we are an X for really good people only", which leaves one to decide if they are brazen enough to consider themselves really good and try this wonder X or just accept the reality of being somewhat OK and move on. Perhaps you are trying to be selective with whom you want to accept as clients and this is meant to be a filter,…

We are definitely shooting for the "professionals who perform their job at an elite level" vibe more than a socioeconomic distinction. That being said, this is a valid criticism since "elite" has some obvious connotations.

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#18

Post by czbond » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

As a product/CompSci person - I like your onboarding workflow. (do agree it is a bit long), but understand from customer discovery perspective.

Was allowed to proceed - but I need a path that doesn't require access to my calendar. (no product trust to do so that early). A comparison is I'm dropped right into Todoist

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#19

Post by priyadarshy » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 5:11 PM UTC

czbond wrote: post #18

As a product/CompSci person - I like your onboarding workflow. (do agree it is a bit long), but understand from customer discovery perspective. Was allowed to proceed - but I need a path that doesn't require access to my calendar. (no product trust to do so that early). A comparison is I'm dropped right into Todoist

Thanks, we've worked tirelessly on it and it's still not perfect!

Yup, the one thing about Sunsama that's different than Todoist and other task tools is that it's not useful unless you use it with your calendar.

Re: Launch HN: Sunsama (YC W19) – Daily Planner for Busy People

#20

Post by dayjah » Wed, Nov 04, 2020, 5:20 PM UTC

priyadarshy wrote: post #17

huhtenberg wrote: post #11

> for elite professionals This is not a beginning of a beautiful friendship. It's like saying "we are an X for really good people only", which leaves one to decide if they are brazen enough to consider themselves really good and try this wonder X or just accept the reality of being somewhat OK and move on. Perhaps you are trying to be selective with whom you want to accept as clients and this is meant to be a filter,…

We are definitely shooting for the "professionals who perform their job at an elite level" vibe more than a socioeconomic distinction. That being said, this is a valid criticism since "elite" has some obvious connotations.

"executive" fits that notion for me.