Gone through the article. almost all countries are trying to avoid climate indication.
U.S. Exits Paris Climate Accord
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#12Question: should countries be able to tax imports from countries with more lax environmental laws? Because that would address the argument about cost and staying competitive.
Doing so would raise the price of consumer products significantly, which will go down terribly in most rich, developed nations.
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#13As a European this is the main fear I have during this election. 4 more years of inaction from the government of one of the biggest polluters in the world will really bite us in the ass. Not that I’m super proud of how we are doing in my country, but it can’t get worse.
Here are some interesting graphs from arguably the most transformative economic miracle in human history [0]. The risk isn't the US doing nothing, it is India, Africa, etc, etc deciding that they seriously want a comfortable standard of living.
[0] https://ourworldindata.org/co2/country/china?country=~CHN
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#14As a European this is the main fear I have during this election. 4 more years of inaction from the government of one of the biggest polluters in the world will really bite us in the ass. Not that I’m super proud of how we are doing in my country, but it can’t get worse.
It was barely debated. We can't even get half the country to care about a disaster that's unfolding in their faces.
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#15The market is doing its best to counter Trump's efforts here, as renewables and storage are dropping faster in price than anybody expected, even the biggest boosters of the tech. We will never build another coal plant in the US. And our energy is getting cheaper, and the grid will get more reliable as we distribute more storage through it. And fortunately for the environment, Trump's efforts at the DoE to help coal h…
> We will never build another coal plant in the US.
Because of natural gas, not renewables. Renewables still need base load due to variable generation because storage technology isn’t economical.
If the price of natural gas didn’t collapse due to fracking the fuck out of the whole country for the last 15 years, we would still be building coal plants hand over fist.
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#16Question: should countries be able to tax imports from countries with more lax environmental laws? Because that would address the argument about cost and staying competitive.
Yes, addressing one nation and failing to address countries without environmental laws despite being part of the Accord is failure people fear talking about.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you would be entering into a "trade war" with the United States - which most countries aren't going to be able to do.
China and the EU can, and should. "Polluter pays" should become the standard policy in international trade in numerous other ways, too.
Well, as an unhappily former EU citizen I don't think getting into arguments at all is an option for the country I live in. :-(
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then you would be entering into a "trade war" with the United States - which most countries aren't going to be able to do.
China and the EU can, and should. "Polluter pays" should become the standard policy in international trade in numerous other ways, too.
Wouldn't "user pays" be more logical. I think it is quite dishonest to blame China when consumption happens in Europe or USA... All of the pollution should be transported in calculations where consumption happens.
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#19Kinda sorta. The US is likely to officially re-enter the Paris climate accord in 77 days.
Only if Biden wins. We won't know for sure yet, for a while.
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#20>along with the growing economic competitiveness of renewable energy sources
I feel that this is the key sentence. Solar panels are getting better every year, batteries are getting better, and in the meantime we have natural gas replacing coal plants which helps to bring down carbon dioxide emissions. I'm personally OK with this.