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Re: No new locally-acquired coronavirus cases in Australia yesterday

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Didn't it emerge from a natural reservoir like bats or monkeys? Ebola's reservoir has yet to have been discovered but it's still there.

Ok, in that case I agree with you that it only delays re-introduction. By, like, a hundred years. I'll take that. Obviously the bigger risk to Australia et al is reintroduction from other countries. So Australia's borders will continue to require 14 days of quarantine until there is a good enough vaccine. However, New Zealand has now seen three re-introductions, and they have managed to suppress them just fine so far…

Flu and Ebola rear their ugly heads constantly yearly even. So every hundred years would be cool but not guaranteed.

These are very optimistic beliefs of yours and time will tell.

You have to keep in mind that even if the virus is able to be contained by human intervention..there is a cost of perpetual repressive policies: closed borders, mask wearing, burden on small businesses, social distancing, etc.

Herd immunity via vaccine or natural acquisition is the only way we'll ever fully go back to normal.

And I do wish you all the best over there, and hope that all of this is as manageable as it appears.

Either way if a vaccine reappears were mostly back to normal.

Re: No new locally-acquired coronavirus cases in Australia yesterday

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Oh that's right 3 to 15 years of prison for criticizing the royal family....that's as fascist as it gets. Not a great model for any country to aspire to. How do we know Thailand isn't just executing anyone testing positive for Coronavirus? Would anyone report it if true with free speech laws like that? Pandemic Problem solved! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se_majest%C3%A9_in_Th...

Well the Thais are really efficient at organising themselves and have an excellent public health and medical system. However, the notion that they can keep a secret like that is laughable. Thailand has actually reopened to Chinese tourists to some extent.

Even if they were doing a bad job you wouldn't say so to avoid going to jail.

Re: No new locally-acquired coronavirus cases in Australia yesterday

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Yeah but isn't this impossible? People go to the grocery store and come into contact with hundreds of people in an hour.

For most viruses whether or not you get sick or become infectious after being exposed to them depends on how strong the exposure was. The amount you need is called the infectious dose. The infectious dose of COVID is not known, but believed to be somewhere in the several hundred to a thousand viruses range. An infected person breathing normally near you might expose you to something like 20 or 30 per minute (breath i…

"The infectious dose of COVID is not known"

You could have stopped there.

Re: No new locally-acquired coronavirus cases in Australia yesterday

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>Spring 2020 started two months ago I think that the parent was referencing the improvements made in covid treatments over the past handful of months, which have been significant - not as many people in hospitals are dying >Apologies -- but I do not understand the point you are trying to make here. Young people, as a population, are not much impacted by this virus. As of Oct 10 there have been 5.3 deaths per 100,000…

Yup, I get that mortality rates are relatively low - but finding quantifiable QoL impact is extremely difficult, especially as these effects can last for months. Reporting seems to focus exclusively on mortality, which I suspect leads to people feeling much more confident than if long term health impacts were more clearly reported.

When I looked into it I was shocked at how many people have long term affects after the flu. One of the studies I saw in a comprehensive paper looking at heart swelling and the flu showed a shocking amount of this in even non-hospitalized flu patients! [0]

Apparently any virus that attacks the lungs and.or nervous system leaves behind a lot of damaged people. Most of the time things like heart swelling go away after a couple months. But some people are permanently damaged. This can happen with all viruses, even the common cold kills people, and there is no indication yet that this virus is any different.

[0] http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.685...

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