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It definitely seems like BS to me. At 3% it's 258% over 32 years (1.03^32). Most people are barely getting 1% annual raises which means income increases by 138% over the same period. From 1984 to 2016 housing prices in the Greater Vancouver area have gone up 800% [1]. Assuming I got the math right, it doesn't take much to see current young people are getting screwed. In the last 4 decades wages have barely increased,…
>From 1984 to 2016 housing prices in the Greater Vancouver area have gone up 800% [1]. Foreign buyers laundering money isn't inflation.
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Since inflation is just the price of stuff rising... Inflation literally is money printing. Price increases is not inflation. Price increases can be caused by inflation. Prices can remain nominally the same while money supply has increased. > So, do prices rise just because a certain amount of dollars were added to an economy ? No, certainly not. Which is why the money printing should only happen when the economy i…
This is the definition of inflation that I was taught too. However it seems that people now days mean for inflation to be about price increases rather than money supply inflation (increases). The money supply inflates and deflates. Prices increase and decrease. I think it would be best if we all start being more clear and specific when talking about "inflation". Printing money DOES automatically lead to inflation. It…
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most people are barely getting 1% annual raises which means income increases by 138% over the same period. Where is that 1% coming from? It seems to me US salaries growth pretty much followed 3/5% average for the last 50 years, with some obvious drawdowns during crises. Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth > In the last 4 decades wages have barely increased, but major assets like cars and…
Your points actually contradict each other. Do interest rates trump supply and demand and global capital movements, or not? Here's a graph of median personal income: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N And here's a graph of median house prices: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?id=MSPUS&nsh... That is almost exactly an increase of 8X, compared to roughly 1.5X for personal income. Do you thi…
Hmm.. No? Which parts contradicts which other?
What I am saying is that the price of a good (say, a car) is not decided in a vacuum. It is merely an indirect side effect of the supply and demand optimum. What that means is that if the price of cars increases, it is a consequence of either consumers being willing/able to pay more for a car (demand driven) or cars being more expensive to build (supply driven). As I mentioned, this is not an absolute truth, since the term structure of the supply demand _could_ change due to external factors. I still mention that in the case of these goods, this is very unlikely.
For housing, the main factors are 1) what the investment will yield (rent expectation) 2) what the investment costs (interest rates). If any of these factors (rent, IR) changes, it will impact the price.
> Here's a graph of median personal income: > And here's a graph of median house prices:
You are comparing CPI adjusted versus point in time dollars here...
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#174The fundamental issue with this article is that the inflation number is a lie. Housing costs are the key cost for every consumer but are excluded from CPI. Western countries have been running fiscal deficits consistently for decades, QE and low interest rates for 10 years. Yet for academics and central bankers the only answer to growth is more debt. Low interest rates benefit only the asset rich. They deprive everyon…
Another thing that bugs me: many countries are taking "tech improvements" in inflation. For example: suppose a TV costs 2x now than what it did 10 years ago, but it is also twice the size, for many countries this means 0% of inflation. Problem is, you can't buy the old stuff. For example, are cars now much faster, safer, etc... than cars of 1950? Yes. But, if you are buying your first car, you can't buy one from 1950…
If you want a 10 year old TV you can get one for a few bucks at most second hand stores – there are tons of them.
Phones are not that expensive. You can get a new decent Nokia dumbphone for about $20.
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#175The fundamental issue with this article is that the inflation number is a lie. Housing costs are the key cost for every consumer but are excluded from CPI. Western countries have been running fiscal deficits consistently for decades, QE and low interest rates for 10 years. Yet for academics and central bankers the only answer to growth is more debt. Low interest rates benefit only the asset rich. They deprive everyon…
But you are very much correct about the ""skills crisis", and unfortunately, the short term solution that has been used by politicians and corporations to evade responsibility, accountability, and having to reveal their failure … immigration … the syphoning off of skills from other societies; has only fueled the deepening of the damaging crisis.
I like foreign cultures and people off all of the world very much, but there has been a vast con job pulled on people for many years now … far longer than any of us are old … that simply replaced spending and having to solve difficult questions by simply extracting talent from foreign societies and cultures and countries.
The impact has been vast on both the origin and destination side. It has both immensely sabotaged the growth and potential of other countries that were deprived of the skilled talent, and it has also allowed corrupt politicians and corrupt corporate institutions to obscure their utter failure and incompetence and mask the immoral and evil damage they have done to people. It may not be a popular opinion here, but at the core of it, immigration is an evil concept that only serves the billionaire strata. You've never asked yourself why the millionaires and billionaires love nothing more than immigration, i.e., cheap labor that allows them to profit more?
Immigration is a sabotage of the origin countries too that are drained of their human energy and potential.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Housing is included in CPI. Housing is included as rent, and owner-adjusted rent (what rent would be if a house was rented). Housing purchase prices aren’t included because a house isn’t consumed within a year. The price of a house represents both current and future housing consumption. It’s not some conspiracy to hide inflation.
Sure, it is included, but underrepresented. When people with six figure salaries are paying 30-50% of their income on rent, the rent figure should be the primary driver of the CPI.
The San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, Washington DC-Baltimore, New York and Boston markets are not the only places in the United States.
There are lots of places in this country where you can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $500/month, or a 2,000 square foot house for $100k.
Meanwhile, wage growth in these high-cost coastal markets has kept pace with the housing cost increases, which is part and parcel with housing cost growths in these regions.
There's no doubt that there's been significant housing inflation in this country, but someone in Chicago making six figures is not paying 50% of their income on rent.
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Sure, but I don't see how wage-earners are untouched by inflation?
Fixed payents (bonds, etc) are fixed. Wage-earners see wages increase with inflation. Possible slight lag, but effectively little. Cash savings of course devalue. Asset holdings (real estate, equities) appreciate with inflation. Debts are reduced -- values fall as money is diluted (the gain side of banks' loss).
Some wage earners. The poorest of the society work for a minimum wage, and that wage won't be increasing anytime soon.
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#178If they print money to build new roads, bridges, (clean) power plants, schools -> good. If they print money to put in stocks and real estate -> bad. The one thing creates real value and enables more real value creation in the future. The other one has no effect on the real economy and wages. Driving real estate prices is even bad: at some point, no real economic strategy (aka. business model) is able to sustain the n…
As someone who really doesn't understand economics: if the government prints money to build infrastructure, where does the value they've added come from? I can't follow the logic of it: the government makes some money and pays a load of workers to build a bridge. It seems like the bridge is 'free', paid for with bits of paper they printed. Is the real cost the increased price of bridge building for everyone else, bec…
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#179The fundamental issue with this article is that the inflation number is a lie. Housing costs are the key cost for every consumer but are excluded from CPI. Western countries have been running fiscal deficits consistently for decades, QE and low interest rates for 10 years. Yet for academics and central bankers the only answer to growth is more debt. Low interest rates benefit only the asset rich. They deprive everyon…
Re: Banks, QE, and Money-Printing
#180The fundamental issue with this article is that the inflation number is a lie. Housing costs are the key cost for every consumer but are excluded from CPI. Western countries have been running fiscal deficits consistently for decades, QE and low interest rates for 10 years. Yet for academics and central bankers the only answer to growth is more debt. Low interest rates benefit only the asset rich. They deprive everyon…
Real monthly mortgage payments have actually been going down relative to inflation: http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/12/payments-for-new-house-h....