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DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS

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Re: DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS

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Call me a skeptic but the code isn't very confidence inspiring https://github.com/dahlia-os/system-recovery/commit/49336659...

These guys used to be on the Fuchsia subreddit fairly frequently. They were definitely far from experienced or professional. IIRC, the founder is very young and was very much a beginner to OS development.

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Sorry I don't get the USP of this. Can someone explain what's the best of both worlds that is being offered here? Thanks!

The write-once-run-everywhere promise -- Flutter is really good at multi-platform support because it works at the pixel level.

So in a browser/web context, all you need (roughly) is a canvas, and to compile the relevant Dart to JS and you're off to the races.

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

Desktop environment made in JS? Hell will freeze before I will use such crap with material feel on it. ;)

It looks like Flutter compiled for the web.

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

Do you have an example of a complicated code base that uses flutter? I've never seen an interface designed with it that makes me think "wow. Great interface.", let alone the feeling that it can handle the functionality I would port to it.

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> combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS Why does a new open source OS project have to always shoehorn the entire GNU/Linux ecosystem with X11/Wayland, GTK, DBus and GNOME onto a totally different system? The only positive takeaway from this is perhaps the learning experience in OS development. Other than that is there a point to this?

For the same reason UNIX actually won against much better OSes, copy paste of freely available source code, C is the JavaScript/PHP of systems programming languages and there were much better and secure platforms out there, including Multics. However the power of free beer....

Unix only "won" in the sense that it's used. It doesn't mean that the situation has improved since the 80s... Y'all can stop boasting about a completely mediocre operating system with zero innovations for the last 30 years that functions about as well as what it was copying from the 80s. Y'all even failed to implement plan9's bind despite being an obvious improvement from what we have today. We're stuck with crappy, but stable, software that keeps you employed out of pure shittiness. Congratulations on sinking to the level of private enterprise.

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

I opened the link. The only thing spoken to my screen reader was "enable accessibility". I pressed the button (it didn't accept space bar, but only enter) and it just announced an empty page. I can't speak to the qualities of the os, but hopefully this won't be the entire a11y experience both on the website and on the os itself if both use flutter.

Yes, this is the kind of things I expect to get better if the tech gets more exposure. If it doesn't then we'll be surely stuck with half-assed solutions for a truly cross-platform dev experience...

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

I guess not yet on browsers like Firefox.

On Firefox, its struggling to keep this page alive such that the browser controls are locking everything up. I don't think its quite ready yet if browsers can't keep up with correctly rendering websites using Flutter.

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

I guess not yet on browsers like Firefox. On Firefox, its struggling to keep this page alive such that the browser controls are locking everything up. I don't think its quite ready yet if browsers can't keep up with correctly rendering websites using Flutter.

That might just be the app, try -https://web.dara.network/ ?

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The promise of flutter is alive! https://web.dahliaos.io/#/ This has the power to accelerate flutter desktop development in general. Really excited for both these projects.

I opened the link. The only thing spoken to my screen reader was "enable accessibility". I pressed the button (it didn't accept space bar, but only enter) and it just announced an empty page. I can't speak to the qualities of the os, but hopefully this won't be the entire a11y experience both on the website and on the os itself if both use flutter.

Yeah, sorry about the performance. We kinda put that together as an impromptu web demo, like the old ubuntu tour. Flutter for the web is super sucky right now, and lacks a lot of things like accessibility and normal text interaction because it is backed by a canvas element. Ideally as Flutter matures we will be able to improve both the performance and accessibility aspect of it.
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