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AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

crispyporkbites wrote: post #49
rossdavidh wrote: post #47

So, if we assume that this game is important enough to somebody to televise, why would we not have volunteers to steer the camera? This does not look like a problem that needed AI applied to it, this has the look of somebody trying to apply AI to something that NI would have worked fine on. Your basic soccer fan would have a pretty good idea of what part of the field is most interesting to be looking at right now, an…

I don’t think you could trust a volunteer football fan to control this remotely. Losing 3-0? Oops the cameras pointing at the sky for the last 30 minutes. Penalty to the opposing team? Oops I slipped and missed it. Football fans are petty and do absolutely ridiculous things. You’d have to pay them something or find some other way to incentivise them, and you’re back to square one.

Then have a few “known good” people and then average their actions with the actions of everyone else doing it – so long as you do “virtual panning” on a cropped image to give the controllers sufficient feedback, that'll give you enough data to kick out trolls / misbehavers in a “Web of Trust” type manner, and even out most other issues that occur.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

#52

Post by baobabKoodaa »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #36
commandlinefan wrote: post #12

Could be worse. An eagle once mistook Aeschylus's bald head for a rock and dropped a tortoise on it (expecting the rock to smash the tortoise shell), killing Aeschylus. https://www.goldencharter.co.uk/news-and-info/2017/six-stran... .

> To add a further strange twist to the death of Aeschylus, Roman author Pliny, suggested that Aeschylus had been spending a lot of time outdoors to avoid a prophecy that he would be killed by a falling object.

I don't get it. If you're worried about being killed by a falling object, wouldn't you want to stay under the cover of a roof?

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Post by ponker »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #52
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To add a further strange twist to the death of Aeschylus, Roman author Pliny, suggested that Aeschylus had been spending a lot of time outdoors to avoid a prophecy that he would be killed by a falling object.

I don't get it. If you're worried about being killed by a falling object, wouldn't you want to stay under the cover of a roof?

Buildings back then probably collapsed much more frequently.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

#54

Post by wizzwizz4 »

jjoonathan wrote: post #25
derjames wrote: post #11

Mathematica mistook Stephen Wolfram for a plunger during an AI demonstration on the Lex Fridman podcast.

It passed the Turing Test.

Hey! He's a talented pure mathematician, and is absolutely not a plunger. To assert such is in no way social commentary.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

#55

Post by notfed »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #52
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To add a further strange twist to the death of Aeschylus, Roman author Pliny, suggested that Aeschylus had been spending a lot of time outdoors to avoid a prophecy that he would be killed by a falling object.

I don't get it. If you're worried about being killed by a falling object, wouldn't you want to stay under the cover of a roof?

I suspect at least part of this story originated as a joke given his status as the "father of tragedy".

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Post by LeonB »

bdowling wrote: post #9
ben_w wrote: post #4

The article’s title appears to be a reference to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife...

That is a pretty obtuse reference to use without explanation. It’s also an odd choice because it feels weird to call an AI a “who”. Despite AI replacing some human tasks, as with the camera operator here, the technology is not at all what we would consider a person.

I understood the reference, but still felt irritated by the word "who".

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Post by codeulike »

bdowling wrote: post #9
ben_w wrote: post #4

The article’s title appears to be a reference to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife...

That is a pretty obtuse reference to use without explanation. It’s also an odd choice because it feels weird to call an AI a “who”. Despite AI replacing some human tasks, as with the camera operator here, the technology is not at all what we would consider a person.

Its a really famous book. And that particular story is about Visual Agnosia so its kind of apt.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Post by Igelau »

bdowling wrote: post #9
ben_w wrote: post #4

The article’s title appears to be a reference to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife...

That is a pretty obtuse reference to use without explanation. It’s also an odd choice because it feels weird to call an AI a “who”. Despite AI replacing some human tasks, as with the camera operator here, the technology is not at all what we would consider a person.

When do we call it a "who"? Where is the line?

Sometimes I don't go down an aisle if I see the spill monitoring robot in my local grocery store. I think it's annoying, slow, dimwitted, and I can't communicate with it. Sometimes as a joke I'll even stare it in the camera and say "Your mother was a toaster!"

Where is the line where I'm no longer just a crazy person, but also a racist?

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