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AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Today my iPhone suggested that I look at an automated album of home cooked food from my photos. It was working pretty well as I scrolled through and then it came up with some poop on the ground that for some reason I had taken a photo of. Kind of disconcerting.

With the right auto-generated background music, this would have been a great dystopian 2020 summary.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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This tech is fucking amazing. Assuming their marketing is correct and it's actually AI they would be the only company actually using AI in production in the world AFAIK. They do Ads, Replays, Coaching, better than human ball tracking, they mention betting, not sure what. https://www.pixellot.tv/ You put up a camera that moves with a 5G card then it's just software eating the world. As a parent you NEVER have to go to…

Is that an auto-generated comment? I can't make sense of it at all.

GTP3 strikes again

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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post #37

This tech is fucking amazing. Assuming their marketing is correct and it's actually AI they would be the only company actually using AI in production in the world AFAIK. They do Ads, Replays, Coaching, better than human ball tracking, they mention betting, not sure what. https://www.pixellot.tv/ You put up a camera that moves with a 5G card then it's just software eating the world. As a parent you NEVER have to go to…

Is that an auto-generated comment? I can't make sense of it at all.

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Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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The article’s title appears to be a reference to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife...

That is a pretty obtuse reference to use without explanation. It’s also an odd choice because it feels weird to call an AI a “who”. Despite AI replacing some human tasks, as with the camera operator here, the technology is not at all what we would consider a person.

Not really. I got it instantly and I've never even read the book.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Could be worse. An eagle once mistook Aeschylus's bald head for a rock and dropped a tortoise on it (expecting the rock to smash the tortoise shell), killing Aeschylus. https://www.goldencharter.co.uk/news-and-info/2017/six-stran... .

Actually, I think it was a Bearded Vulture. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearded_vulture

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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Some time ago I needed ball video tracking for a demo at work. I failed to find any out of the box solution which worked satisfactorily. It was way easier to find solutions for seemingly more complex tasks of people tracking or human pose estimation, for which you have numerous publically available algorithms/models.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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So, if we assume that this game is important enough to somebody to televise, why would we not have volunteers to steer the camera? This does not look like a problem that needed AI applied to it, this has the look of somebody trying to apply AI to something that NI would have worked fine on.

Your basic soccer fan would have a pretty good idea of what part of the field is most interesting to be looking at right now, and would be happy to do it (for 10-15 minutes anyway) for free, and could do it remotely with a minimum of setup. You could have some season ticket holders (who can't use their tickets this year) volunteer to do it from their homes; they might even find it kind of exciting to do (for a while anyway), and you might quickly have a wait list.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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So, if we assume that this game is important enough to somebody to televise, why would we not have volunteers to steer the camera? This does not look like a problem that needed AI applied to it, this has the look of somebody trying to apply AI to something that NI would have worked fine on. Your basic soccer fan would have a pretty good idea of what part of the field is most interesting to be looking at right now, an…

A similar thing is done for nature-cams here: https://explore.org/livecams/brown-bears/brown-bear-salmon-c...

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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So, if we assume that this game is important enough to somebody to televise, why would we not have volunteers to steer the camera? This does not look like a problem that needed AI applied to it, this has the look of somebody trying to apply AI to something that NI would have worked fine on. Your basic soccer fan would have a pretty good idea of what part of the field is most interesting to be looking at right now, an…

I don’t think you could trust a volunteer football fan to control this remotely.

Losing 3-0? Oops the cameras pointing at the sky for the last 30 minutes. Penalty to the opposing team? Oops I slipped and missed it. Football fans are petty and do absolutely ridiculous things.

You’d have to pay them something or find some other way to incentivise them, and you’re back to square one.

Re: AI that mistook a bald head for a soccer ball

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I worked for a small startup in copenhagen that worked on this exact problem. Our virtual camera solution was great, and detection of the ball worked most of the time, but white long socks would almost always take the camera's attention. Tracking a fast moving object at a distance is a hard problem indeed

Would making the ball a "unique" colour work? (something that stands out, like magenta)
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