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Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by yalogin »

What Nokia needs right now is to get phones out into the market now. The more they delay the more they lose mind share. They are not letting go of the "we know how to write an OS" mentality. Sure they can do it but they went with Microsoft because they don't want to. They should just slap the OS on to their phones and start pushing them out.

Also the current Windows UI is pretty damn good (from what I heard) so not sure what they want to do more.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by glhaynes »

keso wrote: post #20

I don't understand the negative and suspicious comments. How is this different from HTC Sense and Samsung TouchWiz in Android phones?

People have positive feelings toward W7P even if only because it is novel UI-wise. People don't have positive feelings toward Nokia's UI work... let's just say that.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by rbanffy »

cooldeal wrote: post #18

Well, I don't mind much as long there's no fragmentation of the developer experience. But given Nokia's previous forays into UI development, I think it's best that they leave it to MS.

> I think it's best that they leave it to MS.

If they do it, they'll be a commodity phone maker and will have to compete in price with other WP7 phone makers. All three of them.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by iaskwhy »

keso wrote: post #20

I don't understand the negative and suspicious comments. How is this different from HTC Sense and Samsung TouchWiz in Android phones?

As I was one of the suspicious comments, to me it sounds like they are going to ruin something which I believe is very very good.

Can't say anything about Sense or TouchWiz though, never tried any of them.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by keso »

glhaynes wrote: post #22
keso wrote: post #20

I don't understand the negative and suspicious comments. How is this different from HTC Sense and Samsung TouchWiz in Android phones?

People have positive feelings toward W7P even if only because it is novel UI-wise. People don't have positive feelings toward Nokia's UI work... let's just say that.

Oh yes I agree, the UIs are horrible. I think Nokia wants and needs to make current Nokia users happy with the new phones by implementing "Nokiaisms" (even though the underlying OS will change).

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by cooldeal »

rbanffy wrote: post #23
cooldeal wrote: post #18

Well, I don't mind much as long there's no fragmentation of the developer experience. But given Nokia's previous forays into UI development, I think it's best that they leave it to MS.

> I think it's best that they leave it to MS. If they do it, they'll be a commodity phone maker and will have to compete in price with other WP7 phone makers. All three of them.

> All three of them.

Three? There's atleast 4 in the US, HTC, Samsung, LG and Dell.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by cooldeal »

keso wrote: post #20

I don't understand the negative and suspicious comments. How is this different from HTC Sense and Samsung TouchWiz in Android phones?

Sense and Touchwiz fragment the UI and generally lag more compared to stock Android UI. On top of that, it takes them ages to port the UI skins to the latest Android version which delays the upgrades by several months

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by poundy »

What many people probably don't know is that Nokia started as a company manufacturing paper in 1868, it moved into electricity generation, footwear, etc before creating the first phone in 1960s (100 years after it started). It is hard to find a company that survived this long in business.

I wish they do well, but the MS path does not seem right.

Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"

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Post by alex_c »

rbanffy wrote: post #23
cooldeal wrote: post #18

Well, I don't mind much as long there's no fragmentation of the developer experience. But given Nokia's previous forays into UI development, I think it's best that they leave it to MS.

> I think it's best that they leave it to MS. If they do it, they'll be a commodity phone maker and will have to compete in price with other WP7 phone makers. All three of them.

If they don't, past experience suggests they'll end up with smartphones that no one in North America will want to buy.
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