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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by undersuit »

bstar77 wrote: post #370
bofh23 wrote: post #282

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I’d rather have a miniPC-sized Raspberry Pi computer like an Intel NUC or Mac Mini* mounted on the back of a monitor instead of an all-in-one. Monitors have a much longer useful life so all-in-ones (e.g. iMac) eventually become paperweights or e-waste. If they go the all-in-one route they should include an external HDMI port and a switch to choose between it and the internal Raspberry Pi. *: But upgradeable and repai…

Exactly, this is what the VESA mount on the back of your monitor is for. For an almost no effort solution, you can zip tie a pi to the mount bracket and screw it in (some monitors may even be able to power it via usb). Integrating into the monitor's electronics makes no sense.

> Integrating into the monitor's electronics makes no sense.

Them's fighting words to a NEC C651Q owner.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by seg_lol »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #461
seg_lol wrote: post #394

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I believe a CM4 module could fit in the same space. They were probably developed in parallel, so they couldn't afford to gate the Pi 400 on the CM4 timelines. Also, don't under estimate the performance of future SD cards. v0, get it shipped v1, improve

The issue with SD cards is not performance, it is longevity. I threw away more SD cards than I care to admit. :-/

What is your experience with the DVR series of SD cards?

https://carcamcentral.com/guide/recommended-microsd-cards-fo...

I know there are other power down issues with SD cards and corruption well. I think in a class setting I would have important files replicated to an NFS server, with at least hourly snapshots.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by ugh123 »

Surprised they haven't ditched the caps-lock if a good chunk of their target market is kids. Most Chromebooks have done away with this and it seems to have helped my kids ability to log in

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by soupbowl »

jodrellblank wrote: post #518
CositaS wrote: post #445

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A flatscreen ? as opposed to a CRT?

"Flatscreen" as a right-wing racist dogwhistle term https://old.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/jjlvz0...

I hope you are trolling because this dogwhistle nonsense is getting out of hand.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by marmaduke »

ddingus wrote: post #547
ineedasername wrote: post #492

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1) You can hook this up to a TV. 2) Webcam isn't strictly necessary: You'll be able to "see" your teacher, type in chat, virtually raise your hand, etc. 3) This enables more advanced STEM (The "T" portion, really) not because it's a desktop but because of the built-in 40-pin connector opening it up to the massive catalog of projects that exist for the Pi platform already. 4) Perfect is the enemy of the good: You're c…

That 40 pin connector is a big STEM deal. First peripheral I would sell is an add on breadboard station with lots of good sensors, lights, input controls, motor drivers and such that is buffered to prevent damage and start producing education kits.

> That 40 pin connector is a big STEM deal.

yes really, this is nearly spectrum-opposite of a chromebook (desgined to keep you in a prebuilt ecosystem)

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by markb139 »

nextos wrote: post #539
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #392

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and it is british. anecdotally in terms of longevity and development i have seen they do the best job.

Perhaps that was the case with e.g. vintage sports cars from the 50s and 60s. But I don't think the British manufacturing industry has been doing well ever since. I would love to be wrong, though.

According the uk official national statistics manufacturing product sales for 2019 was £396 billions.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by open-source-ux »

teh_infallible wrote: post #504
cactus2093 wrote: post #409

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> The district couldn't secure all of the necessary Chrome Books, and some students have been left attempting remote learning via their parent's phone, or simply left behind. A cheap mass market device has some truly amazing potential to fill in these gaps at the same time that it enables more advanced S(T)EM learning than you could get with a typical cheap Chrome Book. How many households in this situation have an e…

The pi lets you work without google spying on you. That’s why I want this as an alternative to a Chromebook. My kids can learn computing without feeding data to google.

I also really hope the Pi desktop PC succeeds as an alternative to ChromeOS.

I've been appalled by wide adoption among schoolkids of Chromebooks. Google promises not to build profiles of kids, but they are still capturing all their online and OS behaviour. The volumes of data captured are unimaginably large.

Pushback and scrutiny of ChromeOS is practically zero in tech circles. In fact it's quite the opposite, as discussed by some in this thread: there's excitement about the thought of porting ChromeOS to Pi.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by undersuit »

wtracy wrote: post #449
pedroaraujo wrote: post #322

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This is slightly disappointing, I was expecting it to be some kind of case for the the Compute Module (or at least for the RPi4. I don't know if it's unrealistic, but it would be nice to have some sort of upgrade or repair possibilities.

That seems to more or less already exist: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-keyboard

Sorry, that's just a keyboard with a USB hub.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by [deleted] »

ejolto wrote: post #62
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

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