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South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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This is the funniest thing Matt and Trey have done in years. I don't know if they still write the show, but it hasn't been funny to me in a couple years. This clip had me rolling. This feels inspired and I hope it creates more awareness in the general public.

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If you follow it through, that line of argument makes no sense. If the video weren't fake, would that somehow make the murder of Rohingya acceptable? Of course not. Ultimately you end up back at the beginning: holding people, and not pieces of information, accountable for their actions. That's an issue with civil society, not social media.

Deepfakes have the potential to exacerbate existing issues in civil society. If your husband has just been murdered because of a riot instigated by a deepfake, it's not a great comfort to know that it's not really the "fault" of the deepfake but instead the "fault" of a broken civil society. Plus, deepfakes have the potential to create much more noxious videos than real life. Real life videos depict real life people,…

Well the world does not operate based upon what is comforting. I thought that it was obvious even before COVID-19 but people keep on missing this.

Why not blame the person who confirmed your husband's death at this point if accepting comfortable illusions of someone easy to punish is what we are doing? Without them you would still have some remote hope of survival!

The first step of solving a problem is recognizing the actual problem - what we find comforting is only a distraction for rationalization purposes. Better to recognize that microscopic organisms caused the crop failure instead of burning an old woman as a witch.

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Is there some kind of private/public key signing technique for videos, when the camera creating a video signs it with some key providing a signature that can be verified for authenticity ? so you would be able to at least verify that the video was created at certain date on a certain camera ?

I think this solves the wrong problem. Most of these deepfakes have obvious places where you can tell they are renders. I think it's more important to have tooling that can tell when a video has been altered. I'm more concerned with the manipulation of grainy low-res video. Police body cameras are an incredibly tool for police departments to fight misinformation (well, only when people watch the whole thing). Is edit…

> I think it's more important to have tooling that can tell when a video has been altered.

It's probably going to be a cat and mouse game. Think about how far along green screen technology has come. You watch a movie in the 80s and 90s today and the green screening is super obvious to our 2020 trained eyes. Imagine how someone from the 80s and 90s would perceive the greenscreening from 2020?

I imagine there will always be a cutting edge of deepfakes that will travel halfway around the world before the truth comes out and won't spread to all the people that believed the fake.

I can't help but to think that as a society, we're entering the "schizophrenic" phase of popular reality.

Read these quora answers on what it's like to have schizophrenia and think "What would a society collectively afflicted in the same way behave?"

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-have-schizophrenia-...

It's going to be weird to see society have to operate in a state of constant disbelief of so many things that were previously accepted as fact.

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So I can cryptographically prove that at a particular date at a particular time with a particular camera that I authentically pointed my camera at a screen projecting faked content? I think this only works if you're signing something currently much harder to fake, like a full light-field or something, and even then it won't stay hard to fake forever.

You could have the camera record the lidar also and crypto sign that too. Assuming it is all done in camera and the lidar is high resolution enough it should be possible to completely tamper proof a video recording at least at the “talking head” level. I think Apple could possibly start providing this for iPhone videos if they decided to as the hardware is all there already both the lidar sensor as well as the Secure…

I think this idea of adding additional layers is on the right track because it confounds the deepfake generation problem by adding a curse of dimensionality. You can't just fake 2D. You need to fake 3D which is much harder.

I'm curious what the equivalent of "3D" to "2D" will be for deepfaked voice would be.

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I think the biggest casualty of deepfakes are going to be citizens. Record a video of police brutality or crime footage and it can all be shrugged off as a deep fake. TV stations and journalists can afford 'signed videos'.

People weren't walking around with cameras all the time 10-15 years ago and the world functioned still.

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post #177

I think the biggest casualty of deepfakes are going to be citizens. Record a video of police brutality or crime footage and it can all be shrugged off as a deep fake. TV stations and journalists can afford 'signed videos'.

True. I've already noticed people who aren't cynical, become cynical after seeing some deepfake videos. This, coupled with confirmation bias will not help real victims who are regular citizens.

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Is there some kind of private/public key signing technique for videos, when the camera creating a video signs it with some key providing a signature that can be verified for authenticity ? so you would be able to at least verify that the video was created at certain date on a certain camera ?

I believe Canon has special cameras that the police uses. It’s been a while but they use some encoding scheme I think.

Re: South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

#209

This is the funniest thing Matt and Trey have done in years. I don't know if they still write the show, but it hasn't been funny to me in a couple years. This clip had me rolling. This feels inspired and I hope it creates more awareness in the general public.

Would've been funnier if it was Biden having the stroke. Much more believable. But a week before the election I guess only Trump is an acceptable target. Notice Biden didn't get mentioned a single time.. even when making fun of Trump's son-in-law, surely there's a better joke there about the picture of Hunter Biden with a crack pipe in his mouth that's more relevant to the topic. Or I guess, Matt and Trey know that's real ;)

I give it a 4/10 for effort. The first half was pretty funny. After that, it's just Orange Man Bad. Comedy is always so boring when there's a Republican in the White House.. usually Matt and Trey are an exception but you can't win them all.

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Dark days ahead for Hollywood. How long until Silicon Valley eats that industry? I can imagine lifelike movies that render characters to the users preference in real-time. Talk about “representation”! I can imagine as well dialects, language, etc being rendered in real time to adapt to what the user prefers. You and another person could watch the same film and talk about the same story but have totally different expe…

Really that would be a good thing for "character actors" as it goes less on image and more on as what they need to contribute is creative to be a collaborator instead of a "living prop".

What would be interesting would be the techniques used. Are they like animators or roleplayers focused on a single character to give them emotional touches in added details, quirks, and improved line changes or "greenscreened" such that what they actually look like is utterly irrelevant to their job?

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