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South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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Post by b0rsuk »

acover wrote: post #22
stanrivers wrote: post #11

This feels like the start of something very bad - they are going to be upfront about the deepfakes... others are not. It’s going to get to the point where you can’t even say in a court room “well we have video of him doing this”. The fact that deepfakes will exist will erode confidence in even those things that are true. At the same time it will add additional fake situations to the conversation. Worst part is that e…

Would signing the image in hardware alleviate some of the problem? It would create a high cost to faking.

Maybe we should just go back to analog video?

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Post by samirillian »

Mary Poppins saying Fauci telling people to wear masks is a deepfake because Covid is fake...sorry, doesn't do it for me, esp. considering Fauci did, indeed, discourage people from using masks.

Trump wrecked South Park the same way he wrecked the Daily Show. These people are past their time, their satire is no longer relevant; they too are missing the point.

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Post by _jfoi »

samirillian wrote: post #192

Mary Poppins saying Fauci telling people to wear masks is a deepfake because Covid is fake...sorry, doesn't do it for me, esp. considering Fauci did, indeed, discourage people from using masks. Trump wrecked South Park the same way he wrecked the Daily Show. These people are past their time, their satire is no longer relevant; they too are missing the point.

"Trump wrecked South Park the same way he wrecked the Daily Show. "

Didn't take long for the MAGA brigade to find this post.

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Post by samirillian »

_jfoi wrote: post #193
samirillian wrote: post #192

Mary Poppins saying Fauci telling people to wear masks is a deepfake because Covid is fake...sorry, doesn't do it for me, esp. considering Fauci did, indeed, discourage people from using masks. Trump wrecked South Park the same way he wrecked the Daily Show. These people are past their time, their satire is no longer relevant; they too are missing the point.

"Trump wrecked South Park the same way he wrecked the Daily Show. " Didn't take long for the MAGA brigade to find this post.

Def not MAGA.

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Post by ethbr0 »

pjc50 wrote: post #158
ethbr0 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slightly OT, but I finally realized this was probably the long-game behind Facebook et al.'s real-identity-only policy. Sure it has the side (main!) benefit of empowering targeted advertising. But fundamentally creating traceability between content/comment and a singular identity enables elimination of the most egregious abuses (mass-disinformation/ganging). I'm as 90s internet-is-for-anonymous as anyone, but I have…

Much of the worst content is published by people under their own names and news bylines. And then happily retweeted by people under their own names. It gets worse when businesses and adverts are included in the mix. Who is Bob's News Agency, really ? Can you click on every advert to find who paid for it? No.

Absolutely, but the difference is those people have fingerprints.

If someone is repeatedly toxic (which should be algorithmically identifiable), you can take steps to balance that.

You cannot do the same if 50% of your userbase lacks a stable / historical identity. At least without attempting to recreate identity on the basis of metadata (IP, patterns, etc).

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Post by njharman »

b0rsuk wrote: post #177

I think the biggest casualty of deepfakes are going to be citizens. Record a video of police brutality or crime footage and it can all be shrugged off as a deep fake. TV stations and journalists can afford 'signed videos'.

Deep fakes typically are putting a face onto an actor (or other footage). Not faking an entire scene with multiple people, that's just called CGI/Animation.

So you could easily take existing footage and change who it appears to be. But,

1) doing that to frame or unframe someone will be pretty niche 2) the original correct footage might still be findable 3) with access to the video files(which is going to be required in any legal situation), I'm sure there will be (exists for photos) algorytms that detect the editing the deepfake did to video file.

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Post by serial_dev »

b0rsuk wrote: post #177

I think the biggest casualty of deepfakes are going to be citizens. Record a video of police brutality or crime footage and it can all be shrugged off as a deep fake. TV stations and journalists can afford 'signed videos'.

I also don't think that politicians will suffer the most. Some people already know that social websites are full of fake videos, pictures and quotes from politicians. The others who don't know that already, could be more economically tricked, for example use a picture of a politician, place some outrageous quote next to him/her with Comic Sans, and some will believe that, too.

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Post by njharman »

stanrivers wrote: post #11

This feels like the start of something very bad - they are going to be upfront about the deepfakes... others are not. It’s going to get to the point where you can’t even say in a court room “well we have video of him doing this”. The fact that deepfakes will exist will erode confidence in even those things that are true. At the same time it will add additional fake situations to the conversation. Worst part is that e…

> “well we have video of him doing this”. The fact that deepfakes will exist will erode confidence in even those things that are true

That's good. Courts should not have high confidence in any single bit of evidence. It can all be manufactured. And long before now. It's just (too) hard to manufacture, not be detected, and get larger number of people required to "go along" with it, when you have manufacture multiple collaborating pieces.

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Post by malandrew »

phailhaus wrote: post #114
hospadar wrote: post #57

This is SO GREAT! I often feel deep existential dread about deepfakes and the lag between when they are viable (now) and when everyone stops trusting video that doesn't have some kind of rock-solid signed/encrypted/testified provenance (years from now or never?). What better way to educate the public about deepfake technology than with over-the top satire?

> What better way to educate the public about deepfake technology than with over-the top satire? There is a sizable group of people who do not know that The Colbert Report was satire. The problem with satire is that there will always be a group of people who think it's real, it's like a corollary to Poe's Law. Source: Research: Conservatives believe Colbert isn't joking https://www.cnet.com/news/research-conservative…

Yup. The same goes the other direction. The Babylon Bee has been fact checked a bunch of times because some liberals think it is fake news not satire. Whether it's a few, some, many, whatever is debatable, but seems like a general rule that people generally don't perceive satire to be satire when it doesn't match their preferred consumer choice of gaslighting mainstream media. It's hardly specific to liberals or conservatives.
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