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Goodbye, Twitter

sneak.berlin

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Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#81

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> but some of that information is necessary for me to receive Like what?

Service status/outage updates, official news from government organizations.

If your government is posting information exclusively to twitter, that's the problem that needs fixing, not twitter's legal status as a utility. Additionally, an account isn't needed to view that kind of information on twitter.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#82

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>If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article. Would you have said the same about the Declaration of Independence? Sometimes it is a great step forward in dissent to outline why you find the current regime intolerable and why you are leaving.

Assuming you're not joking, I feel like most of these I'm quitting articles could have been written by some version of Microsoft Clippy + GPT-3, which can hardly be said of the Declaration of Independence.

King George said about the same thing concerning the Declaration.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/king-speaks-for-...

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#83
post #78

Go ahead and complain about Twitter "censoring" things you post. Twitter's a platform. They have to choose what they want on there. Eventually it gets to "Oh, you saw that on Twitter? That's some garbage site where the users post every crazy, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that comes along." At that point their platform is worthless. Censorship is no different than any other decision about what business you're in.…

I wonder if it's possible to avoid that, once it gets going. Twitter already seems like it's in the "garbage site" category, and they won't be able to fix that without throwing away the network effect that they depend on. Anybody can post anything they want on their own sites, or a number of other completely unmoderated sites. People don't go there because their friends are already on Twitter. The conspiracy theorist…

> I wonder if it's possible to avoid that, once it gets going. Twitter already seems like it's in the "garbage site" category, and they won't be able to fix that without throwing away the network effect that they depend on.

I think the real danger to Twitter is driving out the 'good' users because they don't want to be affiliated with the brand. The pandemic had the potential to end Twitter. To their credit, they realized it and did something about it.

A secondary concern is that the good users will start to retweet stuff that's borderline because they like what it says. I think we're already seeing that. There seems to be developing an attitude of "Well, it's not exactly correct, but it's probably sort of correct, so...[retweet/reply tweet]."

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

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post #78

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I wonder if it's possible to avoid that, once it gets going. Twitter already seems like it's in the "garbage site" category, and they won't be able to fix that without throwing away the network effect that they depend on. Anybody can post anything they want on their own sites, or a number of other completely unmoderated sites. People don't go there because their friends are already on Twitter. The conspiracy theorist…

> I wonder if it's possible to avoid that, once it gets going. Twitter already seems like it's in the "garbage site" category, and they won't be able to fix that without throwing away the network effect that they depend on. I think the real danger to Twitter is driving out the 'good' users because they don't want to be affiliated with the brand. The pandemic had the potential to end Twitter. To their credit, they rea…

I missed that. What did they do to course-correct during the pandemic?

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#85

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Service status/outage updates, official news from government organizations.

If your government is posting information exclusively to twitter, that's the problem that needs fixing, not twitter's legal status as a utility. Additionally, an account isn't needed to view that kind of information on twitter.

I am not saying I need to make an account or that twitter should be treated as a utility. But I cannot control my government.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#86

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If your government is posting information exclusively to twitter, that's the problem that needs fixing, not twitter's legal status as a utility. Additionally, an account isn't needed to view that kind of information on twitter.

I am not saying I need to make an account or that twitter should be treated as a utility. But I cannot control my government.

Fair enough

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

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The problem is, sometimes you don't have a choice because the people you need to talk to are only reachable through Twitter. I once bought tickets for a sold-out conference that way (at face value, not a scalper, just someone who had a ticket and couldn't go). I had to wire the money and would only learn at the entrance to the conference whether I got scammed or not. A quick scroll down the Twitter timeline of that p…

Do you mean that the person you bought the tickets from had obviously misunderstood the context that they were posting messages into? I follow a few dozen people and don't observe ~any~ misunderstanding that it is very public. There's people that like to share, but they are obviously clear on what they are doing.

I don't think the person misunderstood. I think they did realize that what they were saying was public, but didn't care too much - they just wanted to get a message to a specific person, and Twitter made the easiest way to do so to say it publicly.

As a result, a lot of such messages ended up being public, and while each of them was innocent, all of them taken together were saying a lot about that person. And the latter may have been an implication that the person didn't realize.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

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I wish people would not react with "well, it works on my machine" to stories of personal experience. Personal experiences have value - at least some, if they are well written and reflect important trends - even if they don't match yours. Dismissing it just because yours is different... well, it's fine, maybe it has no value for you. Claiming that it has no value to anybody ever is just hubris.

It's always the same complaints (invasion of privacy, I'm obsessed so it takes too much of my time, I get too many insulting DM's, or I don't like making them rich by providing content for free), never anything serious like Twitter is mining bitcoin in the background or Facebook makes it easy for ransome ware criminals to target you.

Your fears are yours, not a universal rule. For you, the worst Twitter can do is to steal some of your CPU time. For somebody else, it may be steal the actual time of their life, or enjoyment of it, and that may be more important for them. It's fine that it's not important for you, just don't try to claim it's the same for everybody. "Serious" is subjective.
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