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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by throwaway894345 »

filleokus wrote: post #127
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

FWIW: Now you can get raw PCI-E access with the Compute Module [0] + IO Board [1], allowing you to put a SSD on there over a robust interface. But yeah, I would also love this to be built in on something like the RPI. Closest option according to my research is probably the Rock Pi, but then it's not really straight forward to boot from it etc... [0]: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4/ [1]: https:/…

I know relatively little about the Compute Modules... Are there any decent "racks" for these that would allow you to assemble many of them into a single unit?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by kingosticks »

ldiracdelta wrote: post #403
krageon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except these problems don't occur for most people, as evidenced by the fact that the current system works fine. Complaints like yours are relatively rare.

This spring, I deployed 20 PI's at work for a project and they are used every day, many many times a day. I've had 2 corrupt SD card failures so far. It's hard to know for certain what the cause is. We have spare SD cards to swap in for this application. For my application, having a spare SD image isn't a problem and I don't need five 9's of uptime, but the SD cards seem to be a point of fragility. Ultimately we're v…

Is your use-case not perfect for the network boot feature?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by jvanderbot »

cactus2093 wrote: post #409
ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

> The district couldn't secure all of the necessary Chrome Books, and some students have been left attempting remote learning via their parent's phone, or simply left behind. A cheap mass market device has some truly amazing potential to fill in these gaps at the same time that it enables more advanced S(T)EM learning than you could get with a typical cheap Chrome Book. How many households in this situation have an e…

Oh, I don't know if it takes a lot of imagination to see how a desktop like this one enables more advanced stem learning. The I/O ports, low form factor for portability, the raspbian ecosystem and so on.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by zoomablemind »

ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

I understand the value proposition of Pi platform. It's definitely popular with quite educated audience in developed countries.

However, is Pi offering indeed reaching out to the developing countries? Are there any sources that substantiate the adoption of Pi platform in such communities, especially whether there're any lasting effects beyond the inaugural opening and ribbon-cutting, so to speak?

It's tempting to seek the BBC Micro effect from Pi platform, and I hope it can be achieved. Still, one needs to keep in mind that such effect largely was a result of a government policy which supported wide adoption.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by rsync »

sschueller wrote: post #67

I was hopping they would just use the compute module[1] and you could replace/upgrade or even use it in another project. In the teardown you can see there is only one board. [2] I would have also though it would cost less but I guess integrating it directly is even cheaper. [1] https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-compute-module... [2] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear...

"In the teardown you can see there is only one board."

I'm curious - can one buy that one board ?

It is an odd form-factor that I have not seen a raspi use in the past (long and rectangular) - is it only sold as part of these keyboard units ?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by paxswill »

Sunspark wrote: post #375
bofh23 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d rather have a miniPC-sized Raspberry Pi computer like an Intel NUC or Mac Mini* mounted on the back of a monitor instead of an all-in-one. Monitors have a much longer useful life so all-in-ones (e.g. iMac) eventually become paperweights or e-waste. If they go the all-in-one route they should include an external HDMI port and a switch to choose between it and the internal Raspberry Pi. *: But upgradeable and repai…

I have a NUC but I could never mount it to the back of the monitor because the monitor stand/arm itself uses the VESA mount location.

If the stand/arm is using the actual VESA mounting holes, there are brackets that can hold a NUC either to the side or sandwiched between the stand/arm and the monitor.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by leoc »

azernik wrote: post #367
diehunde wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking to some friends who are teachers about remote learning the other day. They were saying many of their students (they work in rural areas) had the devices but no access to internet. It's a very complex issue now with all the restrictions.

Different students have different challenges. In urban areas, hardware access can be the limiting factor.

Yes, but if hardware is the access problem then clamshell devices with a built-in screen are probably the better solution.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by JorgeGT »

diehunde wrote: post #356
ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

I was talking to some friends who are teachers about remote learning the other day. They were saying many of their students (they work in rural areas) had the devices but no access to internet. It's a very complex issue now with all the restrictions.

During the past lockdown my University sent students without internet SIM cards with data contracts so they could use their cellphones to tether. IMHO in an emergency situation a public good like the radioelectric spectrum should be commandeered by the authorities --- mobile operators should provide free data service to students in need.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by colordrops »

ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

Does zoom work with the pi? If it came with a camera it would sell like hotcakes.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by sbuk »

cactus2093 wrote: post #409
ineedasername wrote: post #265

This blows my mind. I know, it's much more incremental than it is revolutionary, but I think the form factor achieves a much greater degree of access for many people than a typical Pi whose bare hardware may be a lot more intimidating. Now, it's "just" a computer, which happens to expose a 40-pin connector for the standard Pi hardware fun. And unlike other options you might find, this has the massive built-in communi…

> The district couldn't secure all of the necessary Chrome Books, and some students have been left attempting remote learning via their parent's phone, or simply left behind. A cheap mass market device has some truly amazing potential to fill in these gaps at the same time that it enables more advanced S(T)EM learning than you could get with a typical cheap Chrome Book. How many households in this situation have an e…

I'd assert that TV's are commonplace. This, just like the BBC Micro, ZX80/1 and C64, can easily be used with a TV.
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