Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

raspberrypi.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

371–380 of 776 posts

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#371

Post by Rebelgecko »

ejolto wrote: post #62
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

What percentage of raspberry pis do you think actually go to that "target audience"? 20%?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#373

Post by derefr »

qz2 wrote: post #84
krageon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except these problems don't occur for most people, as evidenced by the fact that the current system works fine. Complaints like yours are relatively rare.

Rubbish. They do. My daughter's school has a pile of knackered Pi's that the teachers don't have the time and budget to fix. Broken connectors, duff microSDs, bricks. They don't use them now, preferring python on windows.

> duff microSDs

Do you mean the microSD cards tend to wear out, or that they’re DOA?

If the former — I’m pretty sure there’s an option to load RaspberryOS into a RAM-resident mode (like a live CD) where regular OS usage won’t hit the disk at all, and only a “Local Documents” partition is mounted writable, with nothing configured to implicitly write to it by default.

If the latter — trust me, the same is true of eMMC, or any other Flash media ordered in bulk quantities. You just have to QA them on arrival. Set up an RMAed-parts box with a shipping label in advance; you’ll need it.

> broken connectors

The microSD connector? In an educational context, that shouldn’t be end-user exposed. It’s essentially a maintenance port. Stick some tape over it.

In the computer labs of the 90s, kids would break the CD-ROM drive trays, too. MDM software was developed that would, among other things, lock out the CD-tray eject mechanism unless/until a teacher enabled it (presumably for working through some whole-class “multimedia” product that never materialized, because who’d trust kids to insert the CDs?)

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#375

Post by Sunspark »

bofh23 wrote: post #282
FerretFred wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>simple RPi branded monitor with a Pi built in Oh, I'd definitely be up for that!!

I’d rather have a miniPC-sized Raspberry Pi computer like an Intel NUC or Mac Mini* mounted on the back of a monitor instead of an all-in-one. Monitors have a much longer useful life so all-in-ones (e.g. iMac) eventually become paperweights or e-waste. If they go the all-in-one route they should include an external HDMI port and a switch to choose between it and the internal Raspberry Pi. *: But upgradeable and repai…

I have a NUC but I could never mount it to the back of the monitor because the monitor stand/arm itself uses the VESA mount location.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#376

Post by phamilton4 »

This is really cool!

I'm going to pick one up just to have a linux box on my desk that's separate from my laptop and not a VM.

It's a little unfortunate that you can't pick a 8GB option, but 4GB is PLENTY. I remember my first RPi had 256MB!!

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#377

Post by Rebelgecko »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #77
numpad0 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are countless Android phones with eMMC without much problems

Android phones are useles... no ethernet, no gpio, shitty cooling, hard to get an OS installed, hard to debug, and compared to RPI4, too expensive. RPi4 is great... small cheap, basically a full pc in a small box, with low power usage, low heat production, no noise, and yes... with a shitty storage solution.

Even with the cost of a $5 ethernet adapter, you can get Android phones significantly cheaper than a Raspberry Pi.

GPIO is a bit trickier, since most devices don't break it out, but for some purposes the audio jack is usable. There's also USB-GPIO adapters but they can be a bit pricey (although if you're interfacing with something like an ESP32 BLE works really well)

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#378

Post by fcantournet »

pvg wrote: post #220
TekMol wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Benchmark: 430000x Cool. That would mean performence more then doubled on a yearly basis. Unfortunately, your "reference" is just the same numbers you posted but as an image. I don't know if this counts as a "reference" :) Any links to who performed those benchmarks?

That would mean performence more then doubled on a yearly basis. How do you figure? They were released 30+ years apart. 2^30 would be a billion times faster. Instead it's something under 19 doublings, nowhere close to doubling every year for 37 years.

I think it's just the case of random boomer think 1980 was 20 years ago :)

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#379

Post by vngzs »

zajio1am wrote: post #309

Although i grew up in era of home computers like ZX Spectrum, i think that this form factor has no real advantage today, compared to some miniature brick form factor (with external keyboard), like NUC (or brick with Rasberry Pi). I see several reasons: - External keyboards are super cheap, there is wide variety of designs to choose based on personal preferences, while when integrated in computer you are stuck with on…

Laptops are basically computers inside keyboards, and people still buy them.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

#380

Post by onesun »

My only wish for v2.0 of this would be an integrated touchpad so I don't have to use a separate mouse. Similar to a Logitech K400 wireless keyboard. I don't know how many times I've been in a situation where it's challenging to find a surface to use a mouse on when I'm working on a Pi project. Workshop, electronics bench, just doing something real quick on my lap, etc.
Post reply on HN