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South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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Re: South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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Post by juskrey »

pengaru wrote: post #66
juskrey wrote: post #24

Talking TV heads are already deep fakes. I'm glad computer fakes will finally erode the confidence of public into those people, from news anchors to presidents. Took almost a century to arrive here.

While I agree on your first point, the rest completely misses that the public will continue to be tribal and instead only believe the talking heads of their given tribe as authentic in a world rife with deep fakes. I fully expect the outcome to be increased tribalism, when faith in your tribe's leadership and information sources is the only source of comfort, confidence, and "truth". I don't think it will be the oppo…

Local talking heads by definition can be punched into the face, seen in the local coffeeshop etc. They have skin in the game. Presidents don't.

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Post by sega_sai »

Is there some kind of private/public key signing technique for videos, when the camera creating a video signs it with some key providing a signature that can be verified for authenticity ? so you would be able to at least verify that the video was created at certain date on a certain camera ?

Re: South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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Post by rglover »

standardUser wrote: post #61
grawprog wrote: post #55

I understand the worries behind deep fakes, but i'm going to be a bit facetious here, hasn't getting the most realistic, lifelike images always been the goal of computer graphics? Wouldn't deepfakes be the ultimate culmination of lifelike CGI. So lifelike it's indistinguishable from the real thing? Like for most of my life, this is the goal I keep hearing about. Now it's here, suddenly it's too real. I dunno just see…

I don't think anyone is disputing the idea that technology in this arena can/will/should advance, but rather that this specific set of technologies come with consequences that are, to many of us, absolutely terrifying. I also don't think we truly understood how susceptible so many people are to made up nonsense until recent years, so this particular kind of made up nonsense suddenly looks like a serious threat to soc…

Just a few more months of these weight loss pills and I'm going to look like David Hasselhoff.

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Post by throwaway3699 »

sega_sai wrote: post #82

Is there some kind of private/public key signing technique for videos, when the camera creating a video signs it with some key providing a signature that can be verified for authenticity ? so you would be able to at least verify that the video was created at certain date on a certain camera ?

This seems absolutely inevitable.

More practically, PGP.

Re: South Park creators have new political satire series with AI-generated deepfakes

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Post by keiferski »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #77
staticautomatic wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again: Audio and video evidence isn't admissible because it's audio or video (and may be inadmissible nonetheless). It's admissible because someone testifies under oath that they have personal knowledge of its provenance. The burden is on the party introducing the evidence to show that it's reliable, and the question of whether or not it is indeed reliable is a factual one for…

This works in a courtroom. This won't work for a politician who retweets a faked video that then incites real violence. And that , at least for now, is where we truly need to be concerned.

The onus of responsibility is still on the person doing the violence. Contrary to the fearmongering, I'd say deepfakes will just make people not believe things they read on the Internet (again), especially as the technology becomes more widespread.

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Post by sbmassey »

stanrivers wrote: post #11

This feels like the start of something very bad - they are going to be upfront about the deepfakes... others are not. It’s going to get to the point where you can’t even say in a court room “well we have video of him doing this”. The fact that deepfakes will exist will erode confidence in even those things that are true. At the same time it will add additional fake situations to the conversation. Worst part is that e…

Maybe people will learn to no longer believe partisan information sources, and organisations whose reputation is based solely on the veracity of their content will predominate.

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Post by munk-a »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #77
staticautomatic wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again: Audio and video evidence isn't admissible because it's audio or video (and may be inadmissible nonetheless). It's admissible because someone testifies under oath that they have personal knowledge of its provenance. The burden is on the party introducing the evidence to show that it's reliable, and the question of whether or not it is indeed reliable is a factual one for…

This works in a courtroom. This won't work for a politician who retweets a faked video that then incites real violence. And that , at least for now, is where we truly need to be concerned.

It doesn't work right now due to the partisan divide in America. Spreading misinformation to help your party's cause isn't currently looked down on - so, honestly, having deepfakes out there might not hurt much and might at least help reduce the weight that blatantly doctored videos carry with the general populace.

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Post by chaoticmass »

I don't find the idea very funny or entertaining. If you have a funny parody show or something, it should be funny and entertaining without deep fakery. This seems like a gimmick that won't last long. Maybe it will do some good in bringing the issues of deep fakes into the wider public conversation though.

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Post by ip26 »

sega_sai wrote: post #82

Is there some kind of private/public key signing technique for videos, when the camera creating a video signs it with some key providing a signature that can be verified for authenticity ? so you would be able to at least verify that the video was created at certain date on a certain camera ?

It's a good question, crytpo can be used for this sort of thing. It does preclude editing, unless you also establish a cryptographic trust chain where each successive editor also has a trusted key.

Probably never going to work with cameraphone journalism, but if we're talking about newsroom & press conference footage you could make it happen.

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Post by cm2187 »

stanrivers wrote: post #11

This feels like the start of something very bad - they are going to be upfront about the deepfakes... others are not. It’s going to get to the point where you can’t even say in a court room “well we have video of him doing this”. The fact that deepfakes will exist will erode confidence in even those things that are true. At the same time it will add additional fake situations to the conversation. Worst part is that e…

How is that different from photoshop? Today no one trusts a photo, as even a teenager can do a decent fake on a smartphone. Now the same for audio and video. Doesn't change our world.
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