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Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Separate your gmail, photos, youtube, play and adscense account.

For me, I use a dedicated account for photo backups, and no interactions with any other google service. One gmail for interweb, one for IRL activities, one youtube acount for raging and one for my android with G Play.

I don't have an adscense account yet but I've read many articles how linked adscense violations destroys your personal gmails.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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I had a great blog that started getting me over $2000 per month from Google Ads (several million views), then suddenly after 3 months it dropped to $300 with the same amount of views and never gone up. No matter how much promo I did I would never get past $300. It seems like Google somehow put restriction on my account without any explanation. Eventually my blog died (also because Facebook capped organic reach of my…

I used to work on adsense. There is no facility for an "earnings cap". Your revenue is the literal sum of earnings from every click on your property. While ads are showing and being clicked on, you will always be earning more. If I were to guess, you failed to implement ads.txt and/or your content didn't meet the standards required by some big advertisers, so auction pressure was very low for your site.

So you're saying he was smart enough to grow this revenue to 2000/month, but, in the meantime forgetting something that basic - and the system caught up with him? If so where was the system before?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Because MS Office is a different business than giving away free accounts to collect user data. It provides cloud services for money. I guess MS has much better redundancy mechanisms and pretty much committed to not lose your data. Well, shit happens sometimes even with people having the best intentions to do the right thing. Though I didn't hear about a single case of MS losing people's data. But I'm sure MS would ha…

You mentioned the word "value". Is there another tangible value to you in O365 vs G Suite besides the redundancy?

It is now Google Workspace (formerly G Suite).

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/workspace/introducing...

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Google is huge and they run a vast portion of the internet now. If they were to suddenly decide that all FastMail accounts should go to spam tomorrow, any users of FastMail would be SoL—they would be unable to communicate with a huge majority of the internet. They could decide to randomly throw every 5th email that is not a gmail into spam and blame it on other providers having low reliability. Make it random enough…

That would backfire spectacularly, and would probably kill gmail.

It's happening now with smaller providers or by hosting your own server. Try to send an email to gmail from your server.

It hasn't kill gmail. How could it unless other providers refused to route gmail emails the way google refuses to route your personal server's email.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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You mentioned the word "value". Is there another tangible value to you in O365 vs G Suite besides the redundancy?

Value = proper Office suite online and offline with proper document formatting and files + more storage. Altogether cheaper than G Suite. Also it's really great value to have Office installed locally as a proper software. Not a crappy dumbed down browser web-site.

I pay for Gsuite which is $6/mo and extra 100gb of storage, for $8 total. The part that drives me nuts about 0365 is that they don't allow custom email domains below Business 0365 which is $12 a month.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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You mentioned the word "value". Is there another tangible value to you in O365 vs G Suite besides the redundancy?

It is now Google Workspace (formerly G Suite). https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/workspace/introducing...

Thank you! I pay for Gsuite but somehow I didn't notice this change.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Office 365 is overall better plus, never seen anyone complaining about getting their officce account deleted into void

That's a pretty broad statement. I suppose that depends on your use case?

well yeah my case is that Excel and word are the best option. They integrate nicely with onedrive and you can plugin the documents into sharepoint and several other platforms within microsoft ecosystem

i might be biased due the fact am an azure power user and have several other tools that work together

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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This is genuinely scary. Photos, Yale locks, Fi, WiFi and Nest thermostat can all be poof gone because I made a silly YouTube comment? How is this not regulated? Google photos also 'helpfully' offers to delete your uploaded photos with 'some guarantee'!!! If this isn't an indication of a giant shitty monopoly that doesn't care about its customers at all, I don't what is. They have some AI ML fucking crap but can't fi…

> How is this not regulated?

Cue the "businesses can choose who they do business with!" and "if you don't like it, build your own!" people.

We signed up for many of those things individually and they've connected them more and more. Now we have a single point of failure that can take down everything across all your sytems.

And it's not just those. Don't forget about Google Voice, Android, and every service where you used "sign in with Google"

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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We do not pay for a home address, and yet people can still reach us there. Email is just as important as physical mail -- the problem is that the economic model changed. This means there is no incentive to maintain service, even though (in my mind) in the modern era an email address is possibly more important to a person for day-to-day communication.

> We do not pay for a home address What? You don't pay paxes in your country? No rent to the owner of your house or paid for owning the house yourself? What country is that?

I mean we do not pay the USPS or FedEx or UPS, etc. to agree to send mail to our address. I was making a comparison between mail and email services. Hopefully this clarifies what I meant.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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I used to work on adsense. There is no facility for an "earnings cap". Your revenue is the literal sum of earnings from every click on your property. While ads are showing and being clicked on, you will always be earning more. If I were to guess, you failed to implement ads.txt and/or your content didn't meet the standards required by some big advertisers, so auction pressure was very low for your site.

So you're saying he was smart enough to grow this revenue to 2000/month, but, in the meantime forgetting something that basic - and the system caught up with him? If so where was the system before?

There have been big swings in advertiser behaviour in the last few years. One big advertiser changes their policy to "no longer include sites about LGBT issues", and suddenly a blog about that could see revenue drop 90%.
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