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Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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> The music he purchased through Google Music has also disappeared. "The app took it upon itself to delete all the downloaded music I had on my phone."

If they are selling access to stuff via the account, surely revoking access without reason will have legal consequences. Couldn't it be viewed as consumer discrimination?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…

"and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail"

I don't see this on their website, will this keep working if Google bans your account?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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It's easy to forward from gmail to any address if you want that.

Does that continue to work if you get locked out though?

I’ve heard off at least one case where a fella’s wife was locked out and still forwarded email.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to forward from gmail to any address if you want that.

Does that continue to work if you get locked out though?

No. And it wouldn't help rebuild the historical record.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #232

This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…

That is why I want something like Time Capsule for our Smartphone ( iOS or Android ). >Roughley lost data including emails, photos, documents and diagrams that he had developed for his work. "My account and all its data is gone," he said. Imagine all your photos were in Google Photos and you cant get it any more because you have somehow violated their policy? All the beautiful memories of your boy or daughter when th…

I have a quarterly reminder set up in my iphone reminders app.

Whenever it goes off, I login to Google Takeout and trigger a full download of my data. I then download the file and put it on the hard drive of my computer, which is itself backed up to multiple hard drives via apple time machine (I have one drive i leave always plugged in, and one I plug in during the quarterly sync and then unplug for protection against ransomware or other attacks against my personal computer).

Simple, effective, and I could only ever lose up to a maximum of 3 months of data if banned from google.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #269

This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…

I recently wrote a step by step article about this, for people who might not know how, such as family members, et al. I chose ProtonMail (despite also being a FastMail customer) because I’m a bit concerned about the new Australian encryption key escrow mandate (which I assume affects FastMail) and I like ProtonMail’s “don’t store plaintext” approach, even if it does need special client software. https://sneak.berlin/…

How big a problem is this since emails are transported predominantly in clear text?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #161

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But even then you have to trust FastMail not to lock you out. Sure it's a paid service so less likely and I'm sure their customer service is better. But it doesn't fix the root issue of being dependent on one party.

Google is pretty unique here. You can have a dedicated support team at Google with a multimillion dollar account, and still be wack-a-moled by Google's automated systems. The root issue is Google. This doesn't happen with most companies. This is specific to Google's culture, which treats customers as statistics. That comes out of how Google thought about search and ads, and doesn't work for anything else. The seconda…

I would say that this applies to most of the companies with hundreds of millions of users. The account flagging needs to be automated and there is still some fraction of false positives. The appeal process is not easy because the false positive users are intermixed with bad actors. The human time dealing with the appeals is limited due to the sheer numbers of users.

For me the solution is to use a paid service or a free service at smaller business where employee/user ratio is better.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #282

This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…

"and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail" I don't see this on their website, will this keep working if Google bans your account?

Why would you want to send mail from an address you can't receive replies at?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #255

This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…

I'm like you - it's been on my todo list for about 8 years... the thing that keeps my exit velocity insanely high is: 1. Entire family on @gmail 2. All Android phones setup to send photos to a shared family@google account so no one needs to 'send me those pictures from Anon's birthday' - it's all getting sent into the same account. I'm not sure how to seamlessly pull off #2 without trying to lift and move the entire…

That's a recipe for disaster when a compromising photo gets spammed to the whole family.

Also, if it's the wrong kind of compromising photo, the whole family can lose the photos.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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I really want to hedge against the loss of my Gmail account and numerous Google Apss/Suite/Whatever setups. But what if my custom backup script to download all the data actually will be what triggers Google's algorithms for suspicious activity?
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