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As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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The problem with these types of posts is that while there's a grain of truth in there (burn more calories than you take in), we're still not able to easily determine a number of key pieces of information that would allow us to really understand how to be successful: 1) How many calories do you need at your target weight? 2) What is your basal metabolic rate? 3) As you cut out calories and lose weight, how much is you…

The various studies done also show that most people regain the weight back 6 months to a year down the line. Right now the only thing we can be sure of is that weight loss only works for the minority in the long term and the only way to be slim is to always be that way.

We did at least work out why processed foods appeared to be more calories, turns out we spend about 20% more energy digesting food that isn't highly processed. Which also goes to show that calories in calories out is far over simplified when people are suggesting deficits that could easily be less than 20% of daily intake.

It is a chemical process and a very complex one at that and right now food science is basically garbage tier with very little in the way of good studies, most of the better end is on mice and rats.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Sheesh! OLDER GUY?! You're a young 38yo!

Ha, was waiting for that one, XD

I said older because the weight-loss plans I came across usually only referred to case studies where people are in their 20s.

And from what I could gather, most people past 35 really start struggling with their weight.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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I have a simple system that works for ME. Basically I eat once a day. I have a full lunch and that's it for the day. I do not fell hungry,specially in the morning where for some reason I just can't eat.

This is casually referred to as the snake diet.

Theravada monks also follow this approach, but not for weight-loss reasons, obviously

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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I needed to simplify even more:

Calorie counting doesn't work for me, I'm just not disciplined enough. I learned a shortcut, which might not work for others: I try to go a bit hungry. If I'm hungry, I'm in calorie deficit. I might even get a bit cold. Turns out I can just listen to the hunger feeling and know whether I'm currently losing or gaining weight. But walking past a bakery, inhaling the smell of fresh bread... Can't say I'm always able to resist.

Some other simplifications:

- I don't keep food at home anymore. Only rice and some bland tasting astronaut food which I can only tolerate when hungry enough.

- I love sugar, and I'm cheating my brain by drinking cola zero. I've gotten so used to it by now that I actually really like the taste and it feels like getting a sugar fix.

- No fixed meals: Only eating when actually hungry, not because it is time.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

#38

The problem with these types of posts is that while there's a grain of truth in there (burn more calories than you take in), we're still not able to easily determine a number of key pieces of information that would allow us to really understand how to be successful: 1) How many calories do you need at your target weight? 2) What is your basal metabolic rate? 3) As you cut out calories and lose weight, how much is you…

The various studies done also show that most people regain the weight back 6 months to a year down the line. Right now the only thing we can be sure of is that weight loss only works for the minority in the long term and the only way to be slim is to always be that way. We did at least work out why processed foods appeared to be more calories, turns out we spend about 20% more energy digesting food that isn't highly…

Well, to give another point of view: I think it is pretty much understood, what is healthy and what is not and also what leads to weight loss and what doesn't.

The problem is that people don't stick with it.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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I have a simple system that works for ME. Basically I eat once a day. I have a full lunch and that's it for the day. I do not fell hungry,specially in the morning where for some reason I just can't eat.

I did the inverse - just stopped having lunch - and that works for me. I also don't feel hungry.

For me, lunch was usually some low quality food grabbed in a hurry, and so it was the easiest meal to cut out. But the main reason to cut lunch was that I always got sleepy mid afternoon, and falling asleep in meetings isn't really acceptable. Not having lunch makes my afternoons much more effective, which is great as I'm not really a morning person.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Caloric restriction worked great pre-1980's. If you could stick to 'simple foods', like the author advocates, it still works. The reason why so many people dismiss it is that from the 1980's onward food was starting to get designed for overeating, and labeling requirements were starting to be gamed so the calories listed on these designed foods (and that includes nearly everything today) no longer have as high straig…

Exactly. And that's where I suspect the "not all calories are equal" thing comes from. I don't trust labels much, especially in my part of the world.
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