Unfortunately, in reality it costs at least $115 (at least in all providers in Spain) which changes quite a lot the value proposition.
Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Schools don't want to be debugging microSD and USB issues.
Except these problems don't occur for most people, as evidenced by the fact that the current system works fine. Complaints like yours are relatively rare.
I think that's because "most people" who buy a Raspberry PI use it once or twice then it lies in a drawer somewhere. In my experience, if you actively use it for something, you'll get into annoying problems like that, it's just a matter of time and how much you are hitting that SD card, or how many times you unplug it without shutting down the Pi properly.
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#163Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.
Pi 4 compute module breaks out the pcie port which is use for usb 3.0 on the pi 4. This means someone could make a motherboard with an m.2 M-key socket. The pcie port could also be routed to a switch to be split among multiple pcie devices such as usb 3.0, ethernet and so on.
Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
#164Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.
The RPi 4 has USB 3 + UAS which is actually quite decent. I use it for Aarch64 development[1]. It boots and runs entirely off the SSD, and the performance is not spectacular but perfectly usable, and being it's a regular SSD it should be at least as reliable as a laptop.
It also has a firmware bug where it cannot boot unless there is an (empty, unused) SD card in the slot, which is annoying!
[1] https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/09/24/raspberry-pi-4-running...
Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
#165I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…
On the subject of heat, how is it on this thing? I've heard stories about the Pi 4 B.
There's an aluminium plate that serves as a heat sink and appears to work quite well, apparently.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Demanding facts and methodology eh? You don’t seem to understand benchmarks.
Or any meaningful benchmarks that can run on both a C64 and a modern computer.
I think this one isn't bad. I've run it on everything down to 8 bit AVR. I haven't tried 6502 but it would fit no problem.
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#167Love it. I first learned BASIC on a keyboard form-factor Atari 800 XL [0], plugged into an old B&W 12" television. I think this device will be much more approachable, and open the Pi/Linux ecosystem to many more users. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_8-bit_family#Newer_XL_ma...
I started with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector-06C
Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
#168I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…
On the subject of heat, how is it on this thing? I've heard stories about the Pi 4 B.
According to the article, it isn't a problem; the heat sink is big enough to not need a fan. Nice bonus that it's a slightly faster SoC.
I have a Pi 4B with a heat sink and fan that's running BOINC 24x7 (yielding a RAC of about 750-775 on World Community Grid), and with the fan connected to 3.3V it runs at a comfortable 52-54°C with absolutely no throttling. I think I'm going to try overclocking it a bit and see how it handles it.
Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
#169Unfortunately, in reality it costs at least $115 (at least in all providers in Spain) which changes quite a lot the value proposition.
I wouldn't mind paying that.
Nobody is shipping to Brazil anymore. I used to buy from Modmypi (great customer service and shipped to Brazil!), but then The Pi Hut took over.
Oh well, sooner or later Aliexpress with have it.
Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC
#170Is there any information on why it is called the '400'? there seems to be no important specification with 400 in it, so where does the name come from?