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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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sounds like people simply weren't taking any care of them, that's why they broke. If they had cases and decent sd cards that probably wouldn't have happened.

School computers take a beating. That's why the two are incompatible.

That's one of the reasons the Apple II was so popular with schools.

It was built like a tank.

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Rubbish. They do. My daughter's school has a pile of knackered Pi's that the teachers don't have the time and budget to fix. Broken connectors, duff microSDs, bricks. They don't use them now, preferring python on windows.

sounds like people simply weren't taking any care of them, that's why they broke. If they had cases and decent sd cards that probably wouldn't have happened.

Too many kids, that's the problem with schools these days.

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Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

> There are alternatives to RPi

The alternatives to RPi don't have nearly as rich selection of polished software, vibrant community and ecosystem as Raspberry Pi has. The best parts (besides hacker-orientedness) of RPi are its uniformness and popularity.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Benchmark: 430000x Cool. That would mean performence more then doubled on a yearly basis. Unfortunately, your "reference" is just the same numbers you posted but as an image. I don't know if this counts as a "reference" :) Any links to who performed those benchmarks?

Demanding facts and methodology eh? You don’t seem to understand benchmarks.

Or any meaningful benchmarks that can run on both a C64 and a modern computer.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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I anyone using the Pi to run very old computer games? Because this could be the perfect gaming console for the nostalgic.

I've got a RPI with RetroPi, it... sorta works, but the cheap controllers aren't very good, and there's a noticeable input lag in games like Mario Bros. N64 games don't get a decent framerate. Mind you this is with an RPI 2 or 3 so not the best hardware either. I got a refurbished N64 as well, works as intended.

"Very old" means different things to different people. If you want to run the sorts of games that used to run on "keyboard plugged into the TV" computers, think Z80, not VR4300.

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Absolutely wonderful! This is getting ever more close to the joy of the original home computers, and a great setup for a kid to start with especially with the book provided. The RPi4 is also an impressive bit of kit. Bravo RPi foundation!

Yes the form factor reminds me of my first computer, a Commodore 64.

They should offer the case/keys in more colors. I have the black keyboard and it's nice beyond anything I could expect at that price range.

Anyway, if they make the board available separately, there can be a huge ecosystem of interesting cases for it.

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Rubbish. They do. My daughter's school has a pile of knackered Pi's that the teachers don't have the time and budget to fix. Broken connectors, duff microSDs, bricks. They don't use them now, preferring python on windows.

sounds like people simply weren't taking any care of them, that's why they broke. If they had cases and decent sd cards that probably wouldn't have happened.

I’m responsible for a fleet of a few hundred Raspberry Pis being used as home monitoring hubs - they use high grade SD cards, and are configured to write as little as possible while still fulfilling their function, yet we still see one or two a month fall of the internet because of SD card corruption. This is absolutely a problem.

I believe the compute module is somewhat better in that it uses eMMC rather than SD cards.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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This tugs all the heartstrings for me as it mimics the computers of the early 80s. My only criticism is that their use of micro-HDMI makes it very easy for children to wreck the machine. I've had this happen twice to me on RPi4s, and it's not a terribly pleasant experience. Now all I want from them is a custom edition with the function keys in red, the rest in black, and the body in beige.

If only it had the traditional orange F-keys. Then it would be perfect! references: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro#/media/File:BBC_Micr... or an actual ARM model: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes#/media/File:A...

My memories prefer an Apple II theme. Either brown and beige or beige on off-white.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…

On the subject of heat, how is it on this thing? I've heard stories about the Pi 4 B.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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I was lucky to get a pre-release version to test, and I decided to tear it down before I started trying it out. I posted this blog post with detailed pictures of the insides, and some more details and performance benchmarks: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-400-tear... There are also a couple videos linked in the post, if you're more visually-inclined. Fun fact: the Pi 400 (and Compute Module 4) bo…

Just watched a few videos on your channel and love it. Really great stuff.

I love this Pi 400 and think in the new year I will pick one up for my son. We have a Pi 4 that we use a lot and he loves but like you say in your video it is a bit annoying with this little box off the side with a bunch of cables coming out of it.

Not terrible by any means just annoying so I really love the form factor of it all being in the keyboard.

I have thought for a while now they should do this kind of form factor or sell a simple RPi branded monitor with a Pi built in so I am happy to see they thought about it too. A keyboard is much more practical than a monitor of course so it is a far more sensible choice!

Really hope this sells well and they continue with this kind of form factor in the future. Even a slightly bigger keyboard with a "forehead" (C64 vibes) would be excellent.

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