Being locked out from google account is one of my biggest fears in practical computer usage. Over the years I can't even tell how much I'm sunk into using tiny pieces of google's services, even though for most crucial things I tend to omit google and look for alternatives that are easier to handle in problematic situation. Mail is one of the things I'm most worried about.
As one who's never trusted my data to Google I really am curious why so many actually do so. Is the convenience truly that great that people are even prepared to gamble the loss of their data? Alternatively, why is it that some of us have always been mistrustful of Big Tech and most others not? They're completely opposite worldviews.
Google users locked out after 15 years' use
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#182All of the other options have drawbacks too. With Fastmail or another provider, you're trusting another corp. Setting up your own involves a bunch of work and difficult to solve drawbacks like spam filtering. I'm also not sure that it's harder to compromise in the grand scheme of things. There are horror stories of people losing domains too.
I think this is a prime case of out of touch governments failing to keep up with regulations. My email is part of my identity at this point and more valuable than any of the plastic that has been assigned to me by the govt. I can't think of much in my life that would be more painful to lose than that email address. Yet, we are all so powerless...
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#183- 1 to $5 a month, sometimes per address. It does pile up.
- no office suite of the level of google docs/office365
- need some basic know-how to do it
- price could go down but then you have to learn about dkim, spf, etc. not your regular customers/consumers thing. Not even your regular HN reader/participant thing.
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- gmail to gmail works, no brainer and the UX is the same for everyone ; your own UX/provider will introduce hiccups
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
You just connect your Google account in the Fastmail settings and they set everything automatically
I wonder how long this will last until Google finds a way to prevent the migration out...
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#185I've started this process a few months ago after 14 years of gmail and it's incredibly tedious and I'm not half done yet. I am trying to move my accounts on my new e-mail address. I'm lucky I have a password manager that lists most of my accounts
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#186Moved to Fastmail years ago, because my spider sensors were telling me for years that I need to fear companies where I can’t reach a human to resolve conflicts / problems. - They have an excellent Email service, calendar and contacts management. Most important: At fastmail I get a very quick response from a human who will always help me very quickly. Also I use my own domain name so that I can move my Emails to a new…
I had a bit of an argument with a good guy who just couldn't understand why I wasn't willing to put all our new company's documents on Google. I convinced him (grudgingly) to use a setup much like this (we ended up with Box instead of Dropbox because I got sick of Dropbox trying to grab all my data). Seeing things from his perspective, I was amazed at how successful Google has been in convincing other businesses to t…
Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use
#187Moved to Fastmail years ago, because my spider sensors were telling me for years that I need to fear companies where I can’t reach a human to resolve conflicts / problems. - They have an excellent Email service, calendar and contacts management. Most important: At fastmail I get a very quick response from a human who will always help me very quickly. Also I use my own domain name so that I can move my Emails to a new…
I had a bit of an argument with a good guy who just couldn't understand why I wasn't willing to put all our new company's documents on Google. I convinced him (grudgingly) to use a setup much like this (we ended up with Box instead of Dropbox because I got sick of Dropbox trying to grab all my data). Seeing things from his perspective, I was amazed at how successful Google has been in convincing other businesses to t…
Identially the same with me. Damn terrible turn up for the books, isn't it. It just illustrates how messy things have gotten and how we need to bring major change to the internet.
That said, for me Office 365 is a step too far. On Windows I still ocassionally use the 2003 version along with LibreOffice and the latter on all my Linux machines.
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#188Shutting them out completely: just no.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google SSO is the best option to login into my country's e-government portal. The other options are: - Bank (requires subscription) - SIM card (requires subscription) - National ID card (requires reader plus a maze of Java applets) All of them suck badly. At least national ID has NFC so technically in future can be a bit easier.
He appears to be in NZ. Yes, I find that crazy.
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#190This article finally prompted me to do what I should've done a long time ago, which is to create a Fastmail account and begin importing my Gmail into it. I've seen this story far too many times, and no longer will I say "yeah but it'll never happen to me". Setting up the import was insanely easy, and my Fastmail account is now configured to enable me to send using my Gmail address from directly within Fastmail. Plus…