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Goodbye, Twitter

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Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#62

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

Somewhat agree. This is not a new thing at all; the phrase "I'm leaving the community" is quite old in internet years.

You're right. I forgot about that. I guess it feels like a big decision to leave for some and so they need to write about it and explore their feelings.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#64
post #53

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

I wish people would not react with "well, it works on my machine" to stories of personal experience. Personal experiences have value - at least some, if they are well written and reflect important trends - even if they don't match yours. Dismissing it just because yours is different... well, it's fine, maybe it has no value for you. Claiming that it has no value to anybody ever is just hubris.

It's always the same complaints (invasion of privacy, I'm obsessed so it takes too much of my time, I get too many insulting DM's, or I don't like making them rich by providing content for free), never anything serious like Twitter is mining bitcoin in the background or Facebook makes it easy for ransome ware criminals to target you.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#65

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

>If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article. Would you have said the same about the Declaration of Independence? Sometimes it is a great step forward in dissent to outline why you find the current regime intolerable and why you are leaving.

Assuming you're not joking, I feel like most of these I'm quitting articles could have been written by some version of Microsoft Clippy + GPT-3, which can hardly be said of the Declaration of Independence.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#66

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

> I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..]" articles Yep. What about "..., I'm quitting [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..]" articles?[0] P.S. All those articles' titles looks mostly clickbait for HNs; instead titles should at least in short form include "why" they do that . [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24962203

I actually found an issue that gave me real pause:

My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook, the very first advertisement was for Malwarebytes. I have never seen a virus ad or basically any other software advert before.

I've never logged into anything using my name or email on her laptop. Amazon's Alexis was listening in the background but I never said "Malwarebytes" outloud. I did talk out loud about viruses. My phone was off because I forgot my charger. My Mother's phone was also off.

I ruled out Alexis for a variety of reasons. I can think only one possibility. Google Chrome, which we both use, is the mostly likely culprit. Chrome could have accessed the camera when I downloaded Malwarebytes, used facial recognition and shared that data with Facebook. Web pages are sandboxed but Chrome itself has complete access to hardware.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#67

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

Somewhat agree. This is not a new thing at all; the phrase "I'm leaving the community" is quite old in internet years.

> the phrase "I'm leaving the community" is quite old in internet years

Think, since 2020 there would be many "I'm quieting Internet" stories in the next few years posted by burnout Internet users, because mostly all of us (kids, adults & elderly) worldwide now preferably communicate online on a daily basis, staying at home due to pandemic.

Number of noobs[0] on the Internet, who never heard "Welcome to the Internet" greeting, actually drastically decreased.[1,2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noob

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Internet-related_t...

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..]" articles Yep. What about "..., I'm quitting [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..]" articles?[0] P.S. All those articles' titles looks mostly clickbait for HNs; instead titles should at least in short form include "why" they do that . [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24962203

I actually found an issue that gave me real pause: My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook, the very first advertisement was for Malwarebytes. I have never seen a virus ad or basically any other software advert before. I've never logged into anything using my name or email on her laptop. Amazon's Al…

> I actually found an issue that gave me real pause: My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook

Its simple: as Mother's laptop & your laptop connected to the same router IP/LAN, Facebook may recognize all PCs as "family" and decide to drop similar ads to all in the house; alternatively if your Facebook profiles connected as "family relationship", ads may enter from back door.

0-day issue you missed to fix firstly: replace Windows to Linux on Mother's PC right before connect it to the Internet.

Next issue was your try to "fix Windows" using "freeware antivirus app".

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually found an issue that gave me real pause: My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook, the very first advertisement was for Malwarebytes. I have never seen a virus ad or basically any other software advert before. I've never logged into anything using my name or email on her laptop. Amazon's Al…

> I actually found an issue that gave me real pause: My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook Its simple: as Mother's laptop & your laptop connected to the same router IP/LAN, Facebook may recognize all PCs as "family" and decide to drop similar ads to all in the house; alternatively if your Facebook…

Thanks for clarifying that. Yes were on the same wireless network, so we probably all received Malwarebytes adverts. I did think of that family connection: Facebook probably realizes I fixed her computer without any detective work at all. Mom can't run Linux. The Malwarebytes free version (expires in 30 days) actually does a good job. I'm probably going to buy her a copy because she's 82 and doesn't understand she should say no to malicious Chrome extensions or other junk. In this case, the malware got her credit card number and some charges in San Francisco showed up, which the CC company was smart enough to decline.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I actually found an issue that gave me real pause: My Mother's Windows laptop had malware so I used a free version of Malwarebytes to clean it up. When I opened up my Linux based laptop and logged into Facebook Its simple: as Mother's laptop & your laptop connected to the same router IP/LAN, Facebook may recognize all PCs as "family" and decide to drop similar ads to all in the house; alternatively if your Facebook…

Thanks for clarifying that. Yes were on the same wireless network, so we probably all received Malwarebytes adverts. I did think of that family connection: Facebook probably realizes I fixed her computer without any detective work at all. Mom can't run Linux. The Malwarebytes free version (expires in 30 days) actually does a good job. I'm probably going to buy her a copy because she's 82 and doesn't understand she sh…

> I'm probably going to buy her a copy

I may not teach here, but that would be just ugly temporary workaround... but not fix.

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