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Goodbye, Twitter

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Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#51

Post by NotStalin »

Errata:

- Due to public and political _profit_

Quick hn poll has _anyone_ seen anyone else talk about “Twitter rewrites any URLs”, Facebook, google or Hyperlink auditing?

- default feed display: was designed to give you their message - twitter: “it’s what we say is happening”

- engagement base timeline - again we only allow those that have passed our filters and tests to show you most content - another “it’s what we say is happening” tweak.

- defaults to switch all behaviors: and then planned re-defaults to get 80 of the 20 that switch back each time

WHY YOU SHOULD QUIT TWITTER NOV 4

MORE THAN ANYTHING: there’s a mouth breathing ugly person at twitter making these decisions and _they actually think you’re too stupid to realize all these changes gives them editorial control_

They think you’re too stupid, they think they’re done genius that got away with it, that you can’t put 2 and 2 together

They’re gloating right now - laughing at you

2 + 2 = 4

break free, don’t give your time to be told someone else’s version of what’s happening, your time is too valuable

Lock up political profiteers

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#52

Post by sneak »

gonehome wrote: post #33
sneak wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just deleted it yesterday, and I'm updating the sidebar now (and also switching from Jekyll to Hugo in the process, which is why it's taking a little while). (I also need to update the index page, and probably some others. Will grep.) As for sensationalized: https://sneak.berlin/20201029/traffic/ I'm sorry you didn't like it. I wrote about it because it was a big deal for me, having been a daily user of the site fo…

How’s the Jekyll to Hugo switch? I’ve considered it, but haven’t done it yet. Currently just hosting on GitHub pages with their built in Jekyll support, but the mess of dependencies is kind of a hassle and Hugo seems nicer.

There’s a “hugo import jekyll” command, but it doesn’t import my theme, so there’s going to be a fair amount of porting it looks like. It brought all of the posts over, though, so that’s good.

Using drone with caching for rubygems got my jekyll builds down to under 2 minutes (I use docker) but I imagine hugo will be under a second once I get it switched over. I’ll probably just commit the binary to the repo.

Shoot me an email if you’d like me to share the sources.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#53

Post by smsm42 »

okareaman wrote: post #26

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

I wish people would not react with "well, it works on my machine" to stories of personal experience. Personal experiences have value - at least some, if they are well written and reflect important trends - even if they don't match yours. Dismissing it just because yours is different... well, it's fine, maybe it has no value for you. Claiming that it has no value to anybody ever is just hubris.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#54

Post by unishark »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #34
okareaman wrote: post #26

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

>If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article. Would you have said the same about the Declaration of Independence? Sometimes it is a great step forward in dissent to outline why you find the current regime intolerable and why you are leaving.

If twitter starts invading the homes of quitters and executing them as traitors, it would certainly add a degree of risk to these decisions.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#55

Post by root_axis »

CameronNemo wrote: post #49
root_axis wrote: post #29

Twitter is not important, you might as well be talking about World of Warcraft; it's an entertainment website, not something anyone needs to use. Just because some famous people post stuff there doesn't mean its important.

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, some organizations only post certain information on twitter.

That is the choice of those organizations.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#56

Post by [deleted] »

rndgermandude wrote: post #48
sebastien_b wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Keep in mind that I started reading this with an open mind, so might help for you to also 'step back' and try to view it from more neutral eyes; if you want to call me a 'left wing nut' after this, no problem for me... You have some good points about how Twitter limits the API, and screws with your timeline and settings. I fully agree with those points. However, you seem to focus a lot on the 'bot' aspect of it…

That's the most flimsy argumentation... The author likes some bots, so he must be a Russian bot? The author mentions §230, so he must be a right winger? The author mentions a Qanon slogan as an example for censorship happening on twitter, so he must be a Qanon nut (I cannot be sure if the author calling out Qanon as a conspiracy theory movement was already present when you commented... but it is now at least) As for…

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Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#57

Post by sebastien_b »

rndgermandude wrote: post #48
sebastien_b wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. Keep in mind that I started reading this with an open mind, so might help for you to also 'step back' and try to view it from more neutral eyes; if you want to call me a 'left wing nut' after this, no problem for me... You have some good points about how Twitter limits the API, and screws with your timeline and settings. I fully agree with those points. However, you seem to focus a lot on the 'bot' aspect of it…

That's the most flimsy argumentation... The author likes some bots, so he must be a Russian bot? The author mentions §230, so he must be a right winger? The author mentions a Qanon slogan as an example for censorship happening on twitter, so he must be a Qanon nut (I cannot be sure if the author calling out Qanon as a conspiracy theory movement was already present when you commented... but it is now at least) As for…

That's the most flimsy argumentation...

Anyone could say so is yours.

Like I said to the author, step back and view it from someone else's eyes. But if you don't want to try, your loss.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#58

Post by anderspitman »

gonehome wrote: post #33
sneak wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just deleted it yesterday, and I'm updating the sidebar now (and also switching from Jekyll to Hugo in the process, which is why it's taking a little while). (I also need to update the index page, and probably some others. Will grep.) As for sensationalized: https://sneak.berlin/20201029/traffic/ I'm sorry you didn't like it. I wrote about it because it was a big deal for me, having been a daily user of the site fo…

How’s the Jekyll to Hugo switch? I’ve considered it, but haven’t done it yet. Currently just hosting on GitHub pages with their built in Jekyll support, but the mess of dependencies is kind of a hassle and Hugo seems nicer.

If you've never tried it before, I highly recommend writing your own static site generator from scratch. It's fun, and you can get a long ways with a few lines of code. Here's one I did this week: https://github.com/boringproxy/boringproxy.io/blob/master/ss...

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#59

Post by rndgermandude »

sebastien_b wrote: post #57
rndgermandude wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the most flimsy argumentation... The author likes some bots, so he must be a Russian bot? The author mentions §230, so he must be a right winger? The author mentions a Qanon slogan as an example for censorship happening on twitter, so he must be a Qanon nut (I cannot be sure if the author calling out Qanon as a conspiracy theory movement was already present when you commented... but it is now at least) As for…

That's the most flimsy argumentation... Anyone could say so is yours. Like I said to the author, step back and view it from someone else's eyes. But if you don't want to try, your loss.

That doesn't mean anything.

And I didn't even put forth an argument of whether I consider the author left, right, center, whatever. I poked and prodded your argument, because I found it to be extremely unsound (excluding the censorship discussion).

And frankly I fail to find any set of eyes I'd be comfortable with where I could follow your argument for the author being a Russian-bot supporting right wing Qanon based on what he wrote. Just too unsound and lacking any assumption of good faith on the authors part, casting him as what is - in these parts of the internet - almost (right wing) or defacto slurs (russian bot; Qanon).

Again, as for seeing with somebody else's eyes... well, I did for the censorship argument, didn't dismiss what you said outright (sorry if that wasn't clear enough) but put forth my own argument, that in part even agrees with what you said yourself.

Re: Goodbye, Twitter

#60

Post by okareaman »

wrsh07 wrote: post #36
okareaman wrote: post #26

I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.

> If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article. Similarly, you could just not read it or downvote & move on

I read them in case there is a compelling reason to quit, but it's always the same standard issue complaints
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