Flagged, and multiple downvotes in the comments. Umm... k?
Goodbye, Twitter
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there anyone using Twitter with some expectation of having private conversations? I mean even the name of the service indicates the total opposite. I doubt Twitter would even exist without its current nature. 40% of Twitter users are lurkers and according to Twitter they have 500 million dormant users (people that visit Twitter without signing in).
The problem is, sometimes you don't have a choice because the people you need to talk to are only reachable through Twitter. I once bought tickets for a sold-out conference that way (at face value, not a scalper, just someone who had a ticket and couldn't go). I had to wire the money and would only learn at the entrance to the conference whether I got scammed or not. A quick scroll down the Twitter timeline of that p…
But this is tricky too. Like for example asking for user support via Twitter. People choose to expose the privacy of their purchases as long as they can gain some audience for their frustrations and solve their problem.
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#23I read about half way through. Some valid arguments, and some not so valid (some clear misunderstanding of S.230), but it’s all worded such that it sounds like it’s coming from a right-wing nut with a chip on his shoulder (which brings the validity of the arguments several notches down).
Out of curiosity, what part of the post suggested to you "right-wing nut"? My email address is in my profile.
Sure. Keep in mind that I started reading this with an open mind, so might help for you to also 'step back' and try to view it from more neutral eyes; if you want to call me a 'left wing nut' after this, no problem for me...
You have some good points about how Twitter limits the API, and screws with your timeline and settings. I fully agree with those points. However, you seem to focus a lot on the 'bot' aspect of it. This made me suspicious as to why you would; we know a lot of disinformation campaigns use bots, so it can be a natural conclusion that some have grievances against Twitter for limiting what bots can do...
You also mention S.230: "How they expect to retain 47 USC §230 (CDA) protections with this behavior"
To me, that sounds like it's a reference to the EARN-IT Act, which is about the right's perceived censorship against them, and wanting to "punish" the likes of Twitter that "do that". Again, sounded suspicious to me.
Finally (after which I stopped reading), your example of "search censorship" on Twitter is about some QANON slogan (or something like that, I'm glad so say I don't want to know enough about them) - to me, that sounded even more of a grievance by someone on the right. As you stated earlier in the blog post, "their site, their rules"; I don't see it as a question of censorship - does prohibiting someone to yell 'FIRE!' in a crowded room constitute censorship, or preventing harm? I see it as preventing harm, by limiting the reach of something harmful (Just like France and other countries prohibit the display of Nazi symbols/paraphernalia).
Again, that's where I stopped; I don't write this to put you down, just that the way you say it doesn't validate your arguments in my eyes.
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#24I only really became aware of how bad Twitter's censorship was when I became 'gender critical', as in, I believe in biological reality and don't think that male-bodied people should be in women's prisons, rape shelters, women's sports, with young girls in changing rooms, etc. Then I saw how Twitter (and other social media sites) blocked and banned women (and to a lesser extent, men) from talking about it. It has been…
If you think that's bad, you should see what mobs of 'gender critical' people with an itchy report button do to trans women on there.
Doubt it's worse than what we see happening to the likes of JK Rowling. It's cool to be trans on Twitter, and I'm not being flippant. Trans are basically ascendent. e.g. Meghan Murphy's suspension from Twitter after tweeting the widely held view of "Men aren't women".
You'd have to give some examples of suspensions in the other direction to help me understand.
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#25I only really became aware of how bad Twitter's censorship was when I became 'gender critical', as in, I believe in biological reality and don't think that male-bodied people should be in women's prisons, rape shelters, women's sports, with young girls in changing rooms, etc. Then I saw how Twitter (and other social media sites) blocked and banned women (and to a lesser extent, men) from talking about it. It has been…
Sorry but Twitter is not legally obligated to be your platform for transphobic hate speech.
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#26I wish we would deprecate these "Goodby [Twitter | Facebook | Medium | Etc..] articles because a) the author usually assumes that people need to be educated and b) the authors have some axe to grind specific to them. Myself and people I know use these platforms with eyes wide open and find them useful. If a person doesn't like them, quit and spare us the dramatic exit article.
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#27I always considered Twitter's standard of holding even private conversations in public and always publicly disclosing your follower/following graph extremely dangerous for privacy, and I wouldn't be surprised if the "public-by-default" also contributed to the toxic "Twitter mob" culture because when every communication is public, everyone on the platform is much more encouraged to virtue signal (or attack those who s…
> a large amount of public discourse and sometimes even official company or government announcements are only available through Twitter.
What exactly are you afraid of missing out on?
I've never had a Twitter account and that has never been a problem for me. The overwhelming majority of my exposure to the site comes from screencaps, embedded tweets in blogs and articles, and the occasional link on HN.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there anyone using Twitter with some expectation of having private conversations? I mean even the name of the service indicates the total opposite. I doubt Twitter would even exist without its current nature. 40% of Twitter users are lurkers and according to Twitter they have 500 million dormant users (people that visit Twitter without signing in).
The problem is, sometimes you don't have a choice because the people you need to talk to are only reachable through Twitter. I once bought tickets for a sold-out conference that way (at face value, not a scalper, just someone who had a ticket and couldn't go). I had to wire the money and would only learn at the entrance to the conference whether I got scammed or not. A quick scroll down the Twitter timeline of that p…
Do you mean that the person you bought the tickets from had obviously misunderstood the context that they were posting messages into?
I follow a few dozen people and don't observe ~any~ misunderstanding that it is very public. There's people that like to share, but they are obviously clear on what they are doing.
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#29Twitter is not important, you might as well be talking about World of Warcraft; it's an entertainment website, not something anyone needs to use. Just because some famous people post stuff there doesn't mean its important.
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#30I only really became aware of how bad Twitter's censorship was when I became 'gender critical', as in, I believe in biological reality and don't think that male-bodied people should be in women's prisons, rape shelters, women's sports, with young girls in changing rooms, etc. Then I saw how Twitter (and other social media sites) blocked and banned women (and to a lesser extent, men) from talking about it. It has been…
regarding Twitter's censorship...
the way Twitter take down NY Post is rather interesting. Even if NY Post story on Hunter Biden is false. Twitter allowed every news outlet to peddled Steele dossier and Trump golden shower in Moscow for years without banning.
edit: then Twitter restored NY Post account but ask them to delete the original post and repost...that just hilarious.