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Re: The cheap pen that changed writing forever

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not entirely related, but my buddy is sitting on ballpoint.com he isn’t a squatter but it’d be nice if he could flip it no doubt. maybe in 1945 ;)

Visited the domain, wasn't sure what I expected, but I laughed. ( https://www.ballpoint.com for easy access)

no www :P

Re: The cheap pen that changed writing forever

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Am I the only one who loved BIC Crystal's because the cap looked like the canopy of a fighter jet?

The same! I learned to love them even more when a friend who's a car designer showed me that you can vary the pressure to shade with them almost like a pencil. IOW they are good sketching tools.

Well, I guess there's also that Jason Bourne scene...that was a Bic, no? ;-)

Re: The cheap pen that changed writing forever

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One side effect not discussed here: how the shift to ballpoint pens increased hand strain [0]. Writing with a fountain pen is relatively effortless - not to deny it has several other drawbacks. I imagine this is part of why, as an elementary school student in France, I was required to write with only fountain pens. [0] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/08/ballp...

My favorite pen is the pentel energel 0.7mm. It will write smooth dark lines just the right thicknes without blobbing or cutting out, and is the most effortless pen to write with. But yes, it does write at a higher angle than a fountain pen. I had a fountain pen years and years ago, and it was something you had to want to use. I can't help but think of it like vinyl records, straight razors and film cameras.

I use my fountain pen all the time out of mostly laziness because my ballpoint pens run out and I don’t want to make a trip to the store to pick up (or find lost in my house). A jar of ink lasts forever.

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you lift weights along muscle systems designed to handle load. Your wrist/elbows etc are relatively weak. See tennis elbow, etc. The other issue is that you end up writing 4-6hrs a day in school 5days a week, wheras the gym is something like, maybe 20 minutes per muscle group? depending. And that doesn't tend to be more than 3-4x a week. I used to weightlift with a much lighter ex. The one thing I noticed was that ev…

It also doesn't help that nobody teaches you proper form for holding a pencil. You start a sport, you're gonna be made aware that there are ways to do the sport that immediately hurt, and that there are ways to do it that won't hurt immediately but will fuck you up for sure in the long run, or even the medium run. There are ways to hold a pen or pencil that will fuck you up in the long run for sure, and most people h…

Yeah, if you look at the old manuals, they almost spend more words explaining how to sit, position the paper, and hold your arm than how to form the letters.

Hint for lefties: move the paper around until it is at an angle that doesn't cramp your wrist.

For some reason everyone's instinct is to align the paper with the desk, and then contort themselves around it.

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I love fountain pens too, and recently tried to switch back to my classic Parker 45. Sadly, the plastic lining of the reservoir had perished, so the pen wouldn't suck ink up. I tried a replacement reservoir, but it didn't work. So I tried a different type, with a screw based impeller mechanism, and got ink all over my fingers and desk. Some of the ink went up into the reservoir, but wouldn't flow back down through th…

I'm new to fountains and enjoy my Lamy Safari even if it is inexpensive plastic. The refillable reservoir is of the screw-suction type but I don't use it that way. I use an inexpensive syringe to transfer ink. https://www.jetpens.com/JetPens-Ink-Syringe/pd/22182

Did you get the converter for the Lamh Safari? I actually use the same for cost reasons (and I like the grip) but I use the disposable cartridges, which seems wasteful. I have just heard that the Safari converter is pretty quick to run empty?

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Fountain pen technology has come a long way! I've never had any problems with leaky pens. You can get some very nice fountain pens for around $20 these days.

One of my favorite fountain pens is the Pilot Varsity - it’s a disposable fountain pen. Lots of ink combined with one of the best nibs out there, no matter the price. There’s an entire set of users out there dedicated to figuring out ways to refill these so they can re-use the nib. I haven’t had a single one leak on me, either. They go for around $2 each.

Yeah, in my foreys into fountain pens they were one that "felt good" to write with. Some had tips which snagged when you end up "pushing" as a lefty, but the Varsity was smooth.

If you want to feel fancier, the Pilot Metropolitan uses the same nib (in fact, since they don't sell replacements, you end up buying a pack of Varsities if you need to replace the nib).

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My favorite pen is the pentel energel 0.7mm. It will write smooth dark lines just the right thicknes without blobbing or cutting out, and is the most effortless pen to write with. But yes, it does write at a higher angle than a fountain pen. I had a fountain pen years and years ago, and it was something you had to want to use. I can't help but think of it like vinyl records, straight razors and film cameras.

>> pentel energel 0.7mm. Thanks for mentioning this I am currently on the lookout for new pen to make my standard usage pen. My prime requirement is that it should be 1.0mm, or at a minimal 0.7mm, since I love the thickness. Secondary requirement is that it should be smooth. I bought Baoke gel from Amazon and while I loved it a lot, was greatly disappointed to find it was of Chinese make. Am now searching for somethi…

My go to pen for years has been the Sarasa Zebra 1.0. I liked it so much and was frustrated when office supply stores didn't carry it that I bought a carton from a distributor (288 pens!) I doubt I'll run out, but they do dry out eventually.
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