Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

cato.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 294 posts

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#41

Post by mc32 »

jansan wrote: post #15

Does this mean thath the polls for this presidential election are even more wrong than they were in 2016?

That's a good question and no one really knows the answer, but we will have the answer Nov 4.

If your implication is true, I think there is going to have to be a serious re-assessment by the establishment regarding the divergence of their politics vs the populace --and there would be a realization that propaganda only goes so far and coercion is the missing ingredient.

If the establishment is right, then obviously they had the right pulse and nothing changes.

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#43

Post by jjdin14 »

vostok wrote: post #29
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not destruction of the middle ground, but rather hiding of the middle ground. Moderates do not feel safe to express moderate views for fear of being ostracized and cancelled.

Do you have any links to examples of moderate views that will get one cancelled? I would be really interested in this topic.

That there are reasons other than racism that partially explain the achievement gap between races.

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#44

Post by tremon »

082349872349872 wrote: post #25
cblconfederate wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.

Maybe distally, but more proximally I'd first put the blame on the people who have been running over or shooting other people.

Or ostracizing other people.

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#46

Post by viraptor »

cblconfederate wrote: post #20
viraptor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a nice ideal, but once the views become too extreme, it's not practical. Not many people will maintain basic civility towards a person telling them they don't deserve basic rights for example.

.

"engaged with people and the culture" is a bit revisionist considering the number of conflicts with politicians and law enforcement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Inn for example? (Example chosen at random, there's tons of them)

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#47

Post by throwaway3699 »

emmelaich wrote: post #32
bob33212 wrote: post #14

Americans have always held a very wide range of political views. Just 16 years ago Bush was running on the idea of adding a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Obviously there were people at that time who thought it was evil to treat gay people like that. And others thought it was sinful to be gay. The only change now is that social media is showing each side the worst content from the other side getting t…

All major political leaders were against gay marriage at some point. The Clintons, Obama, Biden, etc. As for GWB .... > George W. Bush's Forgotten Gay-Rights History > He defied his party by endorsing civil unions in 2004. (But that same year, he backed a constitutional amendment forbidding same-sex marriage. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/george-...

Was Trump?

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#48

Post by runawaybottle »

peteretep wrote: post #28
runawaybottle wrote: post #13

Young Americans are also more likely than older Americans to support punishing people at work for personal donations to Trump. Forty‐ four percent (44%) of Americans under 30 support firing executives if they donate to Trump. This share declines to 22% among those over 55 years old—a 20‐ point difference. An age gap also exists for Biden donors, but is less pronounced. Twenty‐ seven percent (27%) of Americans under 3…

> I think millennials might be quite a case study on bad parenting, because Gen Z are literally turning out to be bad apples. Gen Z are the kids of Gen X, not millennials

Thanks for correcting. Gen X gets the least amount of flak compared to boomers, millennials and Gen Z, so that is interesting.

It’s not easy raising kids for sure, but it’s almost like you have to be callous to not understand what kinda rat race the working world can be, and how hyper competitive even the shittiest of jobs are.

Why are these values not being passed down? Usually, children of working immigrants see how hard their parents or people in their community work in jobs. Are Gen X so well off in middle management somewhere that their kids casually believe it’s aright to sack someone’s livelihood for their political beliefs?

Do we need to take Twitch and Phones away from these idiots and have them go work in the gig economy like a dog for a bit?

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#49

Post by tom_ »

jjdin14 wrote: post #43
vostok wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any links to examples of moderate views that will get one cancelled? I would be really interested in this topic.

That there are reasons other than racism that partially explain the achievement gap between races.

Such as...?

Re: Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

#50

Post by Cass »

ColanR wrote: post #2

And this is why it's so important to maintain basic civility to everyone, regardless of political views.

There's plenty of political views so toxic and harmful they don't deserve civility.

An easy litmus test: are you advocating harm to a person for merely existing in the world, living with the skin color and sexuality they were born with, or making choices that don't harm anyone else? Then I have no interest in hearing your toxic and hateful opinion and I sure hope you'll be afraid to voice it around me.

It's a great thing to have political discussions and to try to see all sides of a topic. Your willingness to see the other side's points should stop at the point where the other side is actively trying harm people for the crime of existing in this world. (See also: antisemitism, homophobia, transphobia, racism.)

Post reply on HN