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Re: Jailbreaking Used Teslas

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Apple does not charge for OS upgrades.

Not right now, but they did. Snow Leopard was $29, Mountain Lion was $19.

That was 8 years ago. Mountain Lion came out before even Windows 8, where even Microsoft was charging for upgrades too before releasing the final version (major version, not build version) of Windows.

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you can go buy a brand new Honda Civic today that has no cellular modem.

Every modern car has a black box that can be subpoenaed for accident information and may expose other incidental information.

Is it connected to the internet, as the parent comment claimed?

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So I'm a little confused. If I buy a tesla, and pay the extra $8000 (or whatever it is) for self driving. If I sell my car, is Tesla refunding the $8000 to the original purchaser?

Haha, no. You pay $8000 for a license that authorizes you to use the self-driving feature in that specific vehicle.

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The worst part isn't even listed in the article - Tesla is remotely disabling fast charging on all salvage cars across all networks, regardless of what the actual damage is. If it was just limited to the supercharger network I would somewhat understand, it's their network and I don't think it's a huge deal to disallow salvage cars on it. But they are removing the ability to charge even at third party chargers, basica…

What if one were to unplug the cellular antenna and prevent an update from happening? Or does the car detect that condition and yell at you? Reminds me of DJI drones which every now and then ask you if you want to update the software, but updating the software only would cause you to have more restrictions on your flight, not less.

You don't need to leave the antenna unplugged as that could trigger detection or burn up the antenna signal amplifier. You can put a dummy load on the antenna connector instead, nothing whatsoever will be able to detect it, and the radio hardware will never send or receive any signals.

Re: Jailbreaking Used Teslas

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The worst part isn't even listed in the article - Tesla is remotely disabling fast charging on all salvage cars across all networks, regardless of what the actual damage is. If it was just limited to the supercharger network I would somewhat understand, it's their network and I don't think it's a huge deal to disallow salvage cars on it. But they are removing the ability to charge even at third party chargers, basica…

Surely the people salvaging these cars would be happy to enter into a contract with Tesla to accept all liability (including superchargers/stations) for damages caused by the car they fixed up, then, right? Edit to add from a below comment I made: I mean more in the scenario of a cell going bad, causing a fire, then maybe blowing up the car and causing collateral damage. As I understand it, this would be covered by t…

These are wrecked cars, however. Who is to say that the batteries don't have hidden damage that could cause them to blow on a fast charge and cause a fire? We already know Teslas have fire issues.

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Surely the people salvaging these cars would be happy to enter into a contract with Tesla to accept all liability (including superchargers/stations) for damages caused by the car they fixed up, then, right? Edit to add from a below comment I made: I mean more in the scenario of a cell going bad, causing a fire, then maybe blowing up the car and causing collateral damage. As I understand it, this would be covered by t…

These are wrecked cars, however. Who is to say that the batteries don't have hidden damage that could cause them to blow on a fast charge and cause a fire? We already know Teslas have fire issues.

That's what insurance is for.

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I don’t see anything in my purchase agreement that indicates you own it or can resell your Autopilot license. Agree the messaging could be improved.

When I bought Autopilot I asked about taking it to another Tesla if I bought one, and was told it belonged to the car. Meaning when I sell the vehicle I assumed I could advertise that I was selling Autopilot with it. Tesla is 100% in the wrong here.

They would be in the wrong if that is what they were doing, but it isn’t. If you sell your car to a private party it keeps all its options. If you sell it back to Tesla, ie trade in, they may add or subtract options before reselling it. That said, there have been some screwups, especially with third party dealers, leading to the current kerfluffle.
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