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Your story reminds me How did Sean Connery shave? ...same as the rest of us, ctrl-s
Why would he send XOFF to his terminal to when he wanted to s(h)ave...
The joke is Sean Connery would pronounce "save" as "shave".
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#163It's good to be the king.
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For all the sins of past societies, they at least had the good grace and civility to regard those who spoke ill of the recently dead (even if deserved) with scorn. There are times where, as F. Scott Fitzgerald once wrote, " To be kind is more important than to be right. " Let's celebrate the good parts and forgive the bad parts of a person's life at it's end, just as we would want others to do for us. Leave chewing o…
I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that once I'm dead, people can say or think whatever they like about me. I won't care, I'll be dead.
Indeed. Be honest with me until I'm on my deathbed -- at that point, please follow Fitzgerald; there's little point in changing a dying person's mind and I'll probably be in plenty of anguish already. But once I'm dead? Whatever, I'm dead. Don't delude yourself for my sake!
And, does anybody remember when bin Laden died? Was it inappropriate to speak ill of him on that day? Nope, that was roundly celebrated with back-slapping and champagne on the very day it happened, by democrats and republicans alike
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For all the sins of past societies, they at least had the good grace and civility to regard those who spoke ill of the recently dead (even if deserved) with scorn. There are times where, as F. Scott Fitzgerald once wrote, " To be kind is more important than to be right. " Let's celebrate the good parts and forgive the bad parts of a person's life at it's end, just as we would want others to do for us. Leave chewing o…
I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that once I'm dead, people can say or think whatever they like about me. I won't care, I'll be dead.
I'd consider myself lucky if anyone remembered me at all once I'm dead!
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#166You're the man now dog. RIP
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Time and place, my dude. You might as well start picketing outside of the man's wake. It's rude to trample on the emotions of people who are mourning together.
Nah. Airing of grievances is a perfectly legitimate form of grief. When my (very popular, publicly beloved, but privately abusive) dad died, I didn't speak my mind at his funeral because of attitudes like yours. People with an incomplete understanding of his person wanted to censor my experiences in order to relish in the good times. My grief process would require several years of counseling. They were there for a pa…
Erasing history in any form isn't great, really. Which is why I was quite specific in the original reply about acknowledging _all_ of it, not just specific bits.
I mean, you can still say that someone was an asshole about a few things but you still loved them. Other people can say they didn't love him at all and have nothing positive to say. They're intimate feelings.
It's not the same as going to someone who is grieving and celebrating and saying, don't forget that he did X, Y and Z though! Where X, Y and Z are hideous things. It's not a place to start trying to change people's minds about someone.
That'll happen all by itself over time, as we can see with people such as Mother Theresa and Jimmy Saville.
My parents were similar in having one public appearance, but being abusive to me in private. I cut contact so I don't imagine or expect to be at any family funeral, so I can't say how I'd react. But I know they would be appreciated by others in a way that I could never be.
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> he did that So it's because of him you have to bad mouth him. It must be hard. Sean denounced domestic abuse afterwards. Does he get points for that? https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12430892.i-dont-believe-...
Yes, it is hard because even here in supposedly enlightened and fair minded Hacker News, even just making comments about his unequivocal support for slapping women, it is met with ridiculous downvotes, claims that there’s “a time and a place” to criticize abuse (and that this apparently isn’t it) and various other mental gymnastics that either tacitly support misogyny or try to deflect rightful criticism of misogyny…
What part of the response is vitriolic? Or unequivocally supporting Connery? I've read every reply completely and all I see is a group of people wrangling what is a difficult topic.
I'll note you seem remarkably dismissive of any viewpoint that isn't full agreement, and even the parent's reply isn't good enough to meet your standard.
All I can say is that if you wanted to rake someone over the coals rather than have what seems to be a pretty mature discussion, I don't think you'll find what you want from this. Otherwise, there's a lot to unpack in what I think is quite a philosophical conversation.
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A guy born in 1930 has some outdated views about something. Why do you even feel the need to mention it? Does it makes you feel better with yourself?
Slapping women around is a bit more than "outdated". That's never been acceptable.
Pretty sure it has been acceptable if you go back far enough. It certainly would've been nice for Connery to keep learning throughout his life and getting some misconceptions out of his head. But I'll make the split to disagree with those views and still consider him a behemoth of an actor that I hugely adore.
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#170Whenever someone of this stature goes, I tend to gather together their films, what I have of them, and work through them. So here I am looking at Outland (which isn't as terrible as Harlan Ellison said but goodness it isn't great), Zardoz , In the Name of the Rose , The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (it's fun, I will grant it that), Time Bandits and was left wondering: what films had his iconic performances? What…
_The Hill_ was not mentioned yet... (1965, directed by Sidney Lumet)