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As I understand it, if you buy a non-salvage used car from another individual then the package follows the car. If you buy a salvage car then the package does not follow it as the car is officially junk (it also loses warranty, etc). If you buy a used car from Tesla they will remove the package before sale. There's one case where Tesla apparently messed up and didn't remove the package from a car they re-sold until a…
I read in the past that Tesla does this also to normal used cars that weren't totaled and salvaged. Either way, you paid for it, and even it it's technically "totaled" it's still fucking yours. When Tesla disables functionality remotely, they don't say it's because the warranty ran out or because it's unsafe now, they say they are happy to re-enable it for fresh money. That's why I wouldn't buy a Tesla (or any car of…
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I agree. It should either be tied to the account holder, and transfer from vehicle to vehicle owned by that person, or be attached to the car and be transferred right along with every other part of the car. From a little bit of reading, it really seems like TSLA is trying to have it both ways on this, where it can just disappear after any private transaction? The fact that there's question here is insane. This should…
FSD and other software upgrades follow the car. Cars can transfer owners just fine. If the car is wrecked and declared salvage , the software value is gone and only the parts can be used. If you rebuild the VIN you don’t magically get the software features back because in the Tesla DB it’s a salvaged car and they can’t (or won’t) be liable for it.
why?
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#73All I want is the work truck equivalent. I don't want all the features. I want it to be cheap and just have basic features. It needs to be reasonably repairable too.
The new hummer ev is a step in the right direction. The original hummers had a pickup style so hopefully that's next. Edit- I've always missed the true small trucks like the 90's era rangers and b2000's. I feel like that's an excellent place for a new ev truck startup to begin. The new rangers and colorados are as big as the old f-150's.
Ford did make a 2000 era electric Ranger though. Perhaps success of an electric f-150 will enable electric trucks in general, and smaller trucks again.
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#74How long until Tesla (or any manufacturer) remotely disables the ignition on all used cars until the new owner pays them to turn it back on. Its only fair. After all, the new owner just bought a hunk of metal from the previous owner. They still need to purchase a license for features like starting the car.
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#76How long until Tesla (or any manufacturer) remotely disables the ignition on all used cars until the new owner pays them to turn it back on. Its only fair. After all, the new owner just bought a hunk of metal from the previous owner. They still need to purchase a license for features like starting the car.
I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. It should either be tied to the account holder, and transfer from vehicle to vehicle owned by that person, or be attached to the car and be transferred right along with every other part of the car. From a little bit of reading, it really seems like TSLA is trying to have it both ways on this, where it can just disappear after any private transaction? The fact that there's question here is insane. This should…
FSD and other software upgrades follow the car. Cars can transfer owners just fine. If the car is wrecked and declared salvage , the software value is gone and only the parts can be used. If you rebuild the VIN you don’t magically get the software features back because in the Tesla DB it’s a salvaged car and they can’t (or won’t) be liable for it.
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#78I can’t really take it in for third party repairs. They seem to refer to me as part of their “fleet”. What data are they collecting? I can’t use it on Uber?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business
You pay for software updates/upgrades on your PC, right? Like it or not you don't own rhings anymore. Neither software or hardware. Everything is going towards subscription models.
only if I want to. In many cases I keep using old version.
>"Everything is going towards subscription models."
That is a wet dream that will not materialize for many vendors or will fail after a while.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business
You pay for software updates/upgrades on your PC, right? Like it or not you don't own rhings anymore. Neither software or hardware. Everything is going towards subscription models.
But I wouldn't accept my motherboard supplier locking hardware features behind software updates either. Like if my can do pci express 16x. I wouldn't think it is right that it only does 8x unless I pay for a software unlock